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    • Yep, I read that and thought about trying to find out what the consideration and grace period is at Riverside but not sure I can. I know they say "You must tell us the specific consideration/grace period at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is"  but I doubt they would disclose it to the public, maybe I should have asked in my CPR 31.14 letter? Yes, I think I can get rid of 5 minutes. I am also going to include a point about BPA CoP: 13.2 The reference to a consideration period in 13.1 shall not apply where a parking event takes place. I think that is Deception .... They giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other!
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I was recently told I had been succesful in my application for ESA and was placed in the support group for a limited period which I was happy with. However I have been wondering if I should request a copy of my atos medical report (esa 85). Partly I am just curious but I also think it would be useful to have for my own records. Is it ok just to call up and ask for a copy or would it somehow make me look suspisous or go against me in future?

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I always get a copy of my "medical" even when i "pass"

 

Well I just got off the phone with the dwp a minute ago and they wanted to know why I was requesting a copy if I was in the sg. I just said for my own records. I really hope it doesn't go against me in future. Too late now to undo.

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No, it'll be fine. The DWP staff are just not used to people requesting the ESA85 when they pass the medical, and filling in the appropriate request forms is a bit of a pain for them to do (I know this from direct personal experience) so the person you spoke to was probably grumbling a bit. But that's what they're paid to do. You're entitled to see this report - the fact that you've actually exercised this right can't be held against you.

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No, it'll be fine. The DWP staff are just not used to people requesting the ESA85 when they pass the medical, and filling in the appropriate request forms is a bit of a pain for them to do (I know this from direct personal experience) so the person you spoke to was probably grumbling a bit. But that's what they're paid to do. You're entitled to see this report - the fact that you've actually exercised this right can't be held against you.

 

Thanks Antone, thats made me feel a bit better! I just think it would be useful to have a copy of.

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Can you post it online, Zarbafi? Many of us would like to know what a successful ATOSH 'medical' report looks like! :D

 

I think that might end up with me giving away a little too much personal information!

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Well I will see what it looks like when it arrives, it is just a pretty personal document to have floating about the internet. That is partly why I wanted a copy from the DWP, just to know what information they now held about me.

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I would be interesting in mine too, I was not in a good place when I filled out the ESA50 (I was awaiting angioplasty, and was having quite a lot of chest pains). In fact it was more scribbled out, don't even know how they read it. I did sort of relent a bit and put in a copy of my script, before sending it back. I think they got it back within a week of it being sent to me.

 

I didn't get called for any medical, got put in the support group. I would be interested how they decided this. I was told I would not be seen for 2 more years.

 

It's fairly easy to remember what I put in the form as I just told it as it was. It would just be interesting to find out how many points i got and what made them put me in the support group.

 

I also would be interested in my wife's DLA award.

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