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    • Euro have got a lot wrong and have failed to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.  According to Section 13 after ECP have written to Arval they should then send a NTH to the Hirer  which they have done.This eliminates Arval from any further pursuit by ECP. When they wrote to your company they should have sent copies of everything that they asked Arval for. This is to prove that your company agree what happened on the day of the breach. If ECP then comply with the Act they are allowed to pursue the hirer. If they fail, to comply they cannot make the hirer pay. They can pursue until they are blue in the face but the Hirer is not lawfully required to pay them and if it went to Court ECP would lose. Your company could say who was driving but the only person that can be pursued is the Hirer, there does not appear to be an extension for a driver to be pursued. Even if there was, because ECP have failed miserably to comply with the Act  they still have no chance of winning in Court. Here are the relevant Hire sections from the Act below.
    • Thank-you FTMDave for your feedback. May I take this opportunity to say that after reading numerous threads to which you are a contributor, I have great admiration for you. You really do go above and beyond in your efforts to help other people. The time you put in to help, in particular with witness statements is incredible. I am also impressed by the way in which you will defer to others with more experience should there be a particular point that you are not 100% clear on and return with answers or advice that you have sought. I wish I had the ability to help others as you do. There is another forum expert that I must also thank for his time and patience answering my questions and allowing me to come to a “penny drops” moment on one particular issue. I believe he has helped me immensely to understand and to strengthen my own case. I shall not mention who it is here at the moment just in case he would rather I didn't but I greatly appreciate the time he took working through that issue with me. I spent 20+ years of working in an industry that rules and regulations had to be strictly adhered to, indeed, exams had to be taken in order that one had to become qualified in those rules and regulations in order to carry out the duties of the post. In a way, such things as PoFA 2012 are rules and regulations that are not completely alien to me. It has been very enjoyable for me to learn these regulations and the law surrounding them. I wish I had found this forum years ago. I admit that perhaps I had been too keen to express my opinions given that I am still in the learning process. After a suitable period in this industry I became Qualified to teach the rules and regulations and I always said to those I taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. If opinions, theories and observations are put forward, discussion can take place and as long as the result is that the student is able to clearly see where they went wrong and got to that moment where the penny drops then that is a valuable learning experience. No matter how experienced one is, there is always something to learn and if I did not know the answer to a question, I would say, I don't know the answer to that question but I will go and find out what the answer is. In any posts I have made, I have stated, “unless I am wrong” or “as far as I can see” awaiting a response telling me what I got wrong, if it was wrong. If I am wrong I am only too happy to admit it and take it as a valuable learning experience. I take the point that perhaps I should not post on other peoples threads and I shall refrain from doing so going forward. 🤐 As alluded to, circumstances can change, FTMDave made the following point that it had been boasted that no Caggers, over two years, who had sent a PPC the wrong registration snotty letter, had even been taken to court, let alone lost a court hearing .... but now they have. I too used the word "seemed" because it is true, we haven't had all the details. After perusing this forum I believe certain advice changed here after the Beavis case, I could be wrong but that is what I seem to remember reading. Could it be that after winning the above case in question, a claimant could refer back to this case and claim that a defendant had not made use of the appeal process, therefore allowing the claimant to win? Again, in this instance only, I do not know what is to be gained by not making an appeal or concealing the identity of the driver, especially if it is later admitted that the defendant was the driver and was the one to input the incorrect VRN in error. So far no one has educated me as to the reason why. But, of course, when making an appeal, it should be worded carefully so that an error in the appeal process cannot be referred back to. I thought long and hard about whether or not to post here but I wanted to bring up this point for discussion. Yes, I admit I have limited knowledge, but does that mean I should have kept silent? After I posted that I moved away from this forum slightly to find other avenues to increase my knowledge. I bought a law book and am now following certain lawyers on Youtube in the hope of arming myself with enough ammunition to use in my own case. In one video titled “7 Reasons You Will LOSE Your Court Case (and how to avoid them)” by Black Belt Barrister I believe he makes my point by saying the following, and I quote: “If you ignore the complaint in the first instance and it does eventually end up in court then it's going to look bad that you didn't co-operate in the first place. The court is not going to look kindly on you simply ignoring the company and not, let's say, availing yourself of any kind of appeal opportunities, particularly if we are talking about parking charge notices and things like that.” This point makes me think that, it is not such a bizarre judgement in the end. Only in the case of having proof of payment and inputting an incorrect VRN .... could it be worthwhile making a carefully worded appeal in the first instance? .... If the appeal fails, depending on the reason, surely this could only help if it went to court? As always, any feedback gratefully received.
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My brother due to mental illness has been on long term sick since 1989, DWP having been paying the interest on his mortage. He has now sold his house. Does anyone know if he has to pay back money to the DWP, there is a shortfall on his endowmentand he will come out with very little equity. If he has to pay back to DWP how can I be sure that he is being treated fairly, I would appreciate any guidance. Thank you all.


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He does not have to repay mortgage interest payments to the DWP, no.

 

If his equity is more than £16,000, it may affect any means-tested benefits he receives, although this is a complex area of the law.

 

On edit: I'm working here on the assumption that he's receiving Income Support, IB or ESA on the basis of inability to work, and that's why he's had MI payments made to his lender on his behalf. If this isn't the situation, you'd need to tell us a bit more - what benefits does he receive, for example?

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He does not have to repay mortgage interest payments to the DWP, no.

 

If his equity is more than £16,000, it may affect any means-tested benefits he receives, although this is a complex area of the law.

 

On edit: I'm working here on the assumption that he's receiving Income Support, IB or ESA on the basis of inability to work, and that's why he's had MI payments made to his lender on his behalf. If this isn't the situation, you'd need to tell us a bit more - what benefits does he receive, for example?

 

Thank you for replying so quickly to my thread.

 

My brother receives DLA. IB and income support. We sadly lost our mother earlier this year and she willed the house between her 4 children with the proviso that my brother could live there for as long as he wished, this is why he has has sold his house. After costs etc the equity from sale should be approx. £25,000. When the house was put on the market we enquired of DWP if anything had to be paid back but they would not commit to a % of pay back but certainly gave the impression that they would expect to be paid some of the equity.Any light you can throw on this grey area would so greatly received.

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My brother will not buy another house but will live in the house which my mother has left to us. Any idea what DWP will do about this?

 

His DLA won't be affected. There's something about the money being ignored for x months if the intention is to buy another house.
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If he's not buying another house then the DWP will probably treat his equity as capital. This won't affect DLA, but it would affect any means-tested benefits such as IS. A person with more than £16,000 in capital is not entitled to these benefits.

 

The mortgage interest payments made to his lender count as part of his benefit from the DWP point of view - they're not relevant to the situation and the DWP can't ask him to repay them.

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If the house is aleady sold, your brother needs to make a call to his benefit centre state that he has sold the propety and has capital of 25k after the sale.. The claim will then be suspended, he can also do a change of address, he will then be asked to send in copies of completion statements to include bank statement showing the date the money sale of the house went into the account. The claim will then close from the date the 25k went into his account. If he has been paid past this point then they may be a small over payment of I.S.

If he is in receipt if IB the capital will not effect this money and he will still receive this benefit.. But if he was IB credts then his benefit will cease as he would have been on full I.S.

The mortgage interest will not be recovered. This is the policy now :)

If he doesnt inform the dept and they keep paying the mortgage, this sometimes happens then they will be an overpayment and this will be raised.

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Thank you so much for this information, I have trawled the internet looking for the answer. Is this based on DWP latest policy? I assume so.

 

The capital limits for means-tested benefits are set by Parliament, not the DWP. The fact that the interest payments are not recoverable I'm less sure about - I mean, I know it's the case but I couldn't tell you if that's law or policy.

 

If you want to independently verify advice you get here (a wise idea - we do our best but we are fallible :wink: ) then a lot of the guidance to processors is available by searching the DWP website. Hint for this is to use google rather than the site's own search function. Go to the google homepage as type something like "site:dwp.gov.uk income support capital decision makers guide" (without quotes) and see how it goes. Searching the DWP site is annoying, but very often the information is there - buried under a ton of stuff you don't care about.

 

Edit: most other search engines offer a similar function if Google is not your preference.

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