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I had a loan arranged by Ocean Finance in 2004 and was sold PPI as part of that. The loan was with iGroup, who were subsequently taken over by GE Money.

 

I complained to Ocean Finance using the ombudsman's PPI complaint form, but they responded and said the loan was with GE Money and that Ocean Finance was only a broker.

 

I complained to GE Money, but they have today responded and said:

Because your complaint is specifically about the advice you were given, and because GE Money neither sold this PPI to you, nor were they present at the point of sale, I do not feel we can investigate your complaint fully or fairly. The company that sold this policy to you was Alabaster Ltd.

It has come to our attention that Alabaster (C.I.) Limited ("Alabaster"), a company incorporated in Jersey, was permitted to use the name "Ocean Finance" in advertisements for the purpose of soliciting applications from the public for the granting of personal loans. Alabaster ceased trading on 31 December 2004, after which date all of the assets of Alabaster were distributed. This process is now complete and the company has formally been dissolved.

However, in none of my loan documentation is the name Alabaster mentioned - it all has Ocean Finance and Mortgages Ltd or iGroup on it.

 

Does anyone have any advice on what I can do next, if anything?

 

Any help would be gratefully received.

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Hi

 

Your target is GE. You paid the premiums to them, they had the interest and the profits and it is they who should refund you. They are well known for wriggling.

 

Take a look at other GE threads in the PPI forum to get an idea of what is involved.

 

ims

 

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Update on this claim: I contacted the Financial Ombudsman about GE Money's response, and was advised that my claim should go to Ocean Finance since they sold me the loan, and my complaint was about mis-selling.

 

So I contacted Ocean Finance, and they sent me a letter that said:

 

With reference to the purchase of payment protection insurance by you in September 2003. Given the timing of this transaction, Ocean Finance and Mortgages Limited ("OFML") could not have played any role in the sale of the policy. OFML was not incorporated until September 2003 and did not actively operate as a business entity until 14th January 2005.

 

From the information you have provided in your letter, it appears that Ocean Finance, not OFML, may have played a role in the sale of the policy.

 

For your convenience, we are pleased to outline briefly the history of the operation of the "Ocean Finance" business:

 

 

  1. The "Ocean Finance" business was originally established in May 1991 as a partnership. From January 1997, Paul Newey carried on the business as a sole trader, continuing to use the trading name "Ocean Finance".

  2. On 14th January 2005, OFML acquired the "Ocean Finance" business from Mr Newey, including certain customer records and the right to use certain "Ocean Finance" trademarks. A copy of the sale and purchase agreement dated 14 January 2005 is available at Companies House (the "SPA"). The SPA deals with the private arrangements as between Mr Newey and OFML, however, and does not confer any rights upon any third parties, such as lenders or borrowers introduced to each other by Ocean Finance. Indeed, any third party rights are expressly excluded.

  3. For OFML to have acquired any direct liability or responsibility to any customer in connection with an arrangement made prior to 14 January 2005 there would have to have been:


    1. a specific agreement as between Mr Newey, trading as Ocean Finance, and that customer;

    2. Mr Newey and the customer would have had to expressly agree that any obligations owed by him under that agreement would be transferred to OFML with effect from 14 January 2005. This is know in legal language as a 'novation'.

    3. OFML has no record of any novation involving you. In the absence of a novation, there is no basis for any claim against OFML.

       

      As a matter of courtesy, and without prejudice to any points made above, we have sent a copy of your letter to Mr Newey, PO Box 15718, Sutton Coldfield, B73 9TA. If you with to take further steps on this matter we suggest you contact Mr Newey directly via the aforementioned address.

       

      So, what now.. Do I pursue through Ocean Finance & Mortgages Ltd, or Mr Paul Newey? The date of my loan agreement was 19 September 2003, which was after OFML was incorporated but before they started operating as a business. Or do I go straight to the FSA?

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Hi

 

Your target is GE. You paid the premiums to them, they had the interest and the profits and it is they who should refund you. They are well known for wriggling.

 

Take a look at other GE threads in the PPI forum to get an idea of what is involved.

 

ims

Hi we are another victim , had the same letter, we were not told that the ppi was sold to a 3rd party, we were told we had to have ppi, imagine our surprise when we went to claim for being misiold, w found out then it had been done through alabaster. Then found out they had gone bust about a month after we took the loan out, and had still been paying , for something we did not have . Any help would be appreciated

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might be best to start a new thread

of your own popey63...

 

 

the same for the other threads you've posted on tonight too

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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