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Just a few thoughts from the FCA about log book loans.

Research published today lifts the lid on how these firms treat their customers. The FCA has found evidence of poor firm behaviour, including little or no affordability checks with some applicants encouraged to manipulate details of their income on application forms

http://www.fca.org.uk/news/fca-says-logbook-lenders-must-raise-standards

 

And for those wanting a ban on payday loan advertising before the watershed.

From Lord Parry Mitchell

My private members bill to ban advertising of payday loans on TV before 9pm, has its first reading in the House of Lords this coming Monday

I will update on Monday.

Other news Paul Blomfield MP wins award for his work on Payday Loans.

 

America.

Ever wondered how much Americans spend on payday loans where the sharks still seem to manage to get round things.They spend over 7.5 billion.

The CFPB fined them over 70 million last year.

A Story

This family proves just how expensive it is to be poor

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/expensive-to-be-poor-payday-lending-underbanked-153951523.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory

 

And despite the American Military Lending Act supposed to protect the military 8 years ago from legal loan sharks it seems they still target them.On the brink: Payday loans

Financially strapped service members targeted by payday and other short-term lenders despite legal protections

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20140601/NEWS01/306010045/On-brink-Payday-loans?nclick_check=1

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Hi Ford.

Yes I like the song.I thought there would be quite a few songs by now in Britain as in America.Not enough if you ask me but I have to admit being biassed.

As for the article which for some reason I did not get to excited about.

I was more interested in the Which comment.

QuoteConsumer group Which? said this investigation did not get to the heart of the issue about the affordability of payday loans.

 

"Forcing lenders to be clear and upfront about costs would help consumers to compare the price of different loans. But this is not sufficient to clean up the payday market and stop the spiral of debt into which so many people fall," said Richard Lloyd, Which? chief executive.

 

Other news that I liked was Hearts ditching Wongas sponsorship

 

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/hearts-ditch-sponsor-wonga-over-payday-loan-fears-1-3443237

 

 

BBC News Payday loan rap warning released

 

One more thought .

Mentioned them many times in the past but perhaps time to mention them

again.

Those payday loans brokers.A nightmare for many.

Been reading a few things and time to have another look at them

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hi,

know what you mean, not really excitable. prob not much already not known. but, the cma is re 'competition'. can they go into the 'heart of the issue about the affordability'? shouldnt it be the fca, politicians, etc doing more re that?

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Hi Ford

Let us hope the FCA keeps up the good work.

Suppose many are now waiting for the CAP to be announced.

As for politians, over the last few years there are politicians who have battled tirelessly against the legal loan sharks.You have to mention names so for me Stella Creasy must be number one.

Some like say one thing then when in power switch, some call it flip flopping.

Others deep down want when a vote comes to change things agree but get whipped into submission by others.

.Spotted a article saying how Students seem to be falling prey to payday loan brokers.They clearly need sorting out.They are making millions of pounds out of people.How long has this been going on.Holding money back for months, some probably hoping that people will just give up asking for their money back.How much is never paid back after the 6 months when many people do not find a loan.Many questions need asking of them going back years it seems.

For now here is the article,

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/business/personal-finance/worrying-number-of-undergraduates-opting-to-use-payday-lenders.24533845

 

Seems a payday loan firm recently lost details of 2000 customers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10896334/Payday-loans-firm-loses-details-of-2000-customers.html

 

In America the battle goes on.

The CFPB is trying hard to get to grip with things.

But the headline that caught my attentiin was this one.

Pentagon declares war on Payday Lenders.

It takes the Pentagon to try to get to grips with them.You could not write this, people will find it hard to believe.The military are still being targeted.

Article.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/pentagon-declares-war-payday-lenders/

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Just seen this Thread from Bankfodder so will post it up just in case anyone has not seen it.

Concerns those self proclaimed clean cut boys of legal loan sharking WONGA.

ARE YOU READY FOR THIS.

 

Wonga - Media request from SkyNews

Sky News are looking to talk to anyone who has been affected by the fake lawyer letters sent out by Wonga under the names

 

“Chainey,

 

D’Amato and Shannon”

 

“Barker and Lowe Legal Recoveries”

 

which have turned out not to exist.

If you believe you are entitled to compensation, Sky News would like to speak to you for a brief interview.

 

Please get in contact via [email protected]

 

Thank you

 

It seems over 2 Million pounds will be paid to over 41000 people.

I will now get all the facts about the story that has been raging all day.

 

Some video.

 

Wonga chased debt with fake lawyers, says FCA

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28013484

 

FCA Statement.

 

Wonga to pay redress for unfair debt collection practices

http://www.fca.org.uk/news/wonga-redress-unfair-debt-collection-practices

 

 

Just been checking on Stella Creasy MP for Walthamstow.Knowing that this must raise peoples blood pressure a touch.

Let us see if Wonga have committed a criminal offence.

I bet Lawyers or law firms are not to happy with this news.

 

Have Wonga Committed a Criminal Offence.

http://ukcriminallawblog.com/2014/06/25/have-wonga-commited-a-criminal-offence/

 

WONGA APOLOGISE.

We apologise.We are sorry we tricked you, caused you stress, fooled you, thought up this in our what can we do next lab to rip you off.And let us also charge you for the letter we are going to send you from our fake lawyers.

SORRY my words, I will now calm down.

https://www.wonga.com/apology.aspx

 

Latest I am hearing is that Adrian Beecroft knew nothing about the fraud.

OK and pigs might fly.

Seems the anger is growing.This has not finished yet.

QUOTE.Questions will inevitably now be asked about how much the Conservative Party adviser Adrian Beecroft knew about the scandal. As well as being a major donor to the Conservatives, he is a big financial backer of Wonga through his Dawn Capital private equity fund.

Wonga’s former chief executive Niall Wass quit recently after just six months in the job. The firm’s founder and chairman, the charismatic Errol Damelin, also announced he was planning to step down earlier this month.

 

Clear and transparent they say, rubbish.

 

Interesting question being asked by some.

"Who is protecting Wonga from prosecution"

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The law society want an investigation into wonga's activites and police are considering it.

 

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28057143

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Thanks Ford. I'm sure Tawny appreciates his thread being updated. Hope he's ok. :(

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Thanks Ford. I'm sure Tawny appreciates his thread being updated. Hope he's ok. :(

 

 

cheers. seems tawny hasn't been on cag for awhile now!

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Thank you Ford for keeping this thread updated.And thanks Caro for wondering if old old Tawny was Ok.

 

 

Been some changes in my life which got to me a touch.

 

 

Result is that I now find myself on Universal Credit hunting for a job.

 

 

At my age and health issues rather confusing.

 

 

I had to scale down things including internet etc.

 

 

However I am trying now to catch up with the Payday loan news some of which is surprising me

and raising my blood pressure a touch both here and internationally.

 

 

So articles will appear shortly which hopefully will interest you and perhaps many of us who have been through troubles

make us think small changes to our lives such as sickness loss of jobs arrears eviction, or fear of can affect us so much and cause so much stress.

 

 

And as we have seen the predators are never far away ready to take advantage.

 

 

Tawny catching up on the news and ready for a summer offensive against predators trying to take advantage of people and communities in Great Britain and elsewhere.

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Great to see you back Tawny but sorry things not so good. You mind that blood pressure but look forward to you informative posts.

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tawnyowl, really good to hear from you - you will see from posts round the forum that we have all been very concerned :)

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Hi citizenB nice to hear from you.And thanks for your kind words Ford and Caro.

It must be about 8 months since i was last around,one of those things that happen sometimes.

It is nice to know that people on the CAG have wondered what has happened to old Tawny.Nice to know and i am touched that people care.I have not been online on

Twitter or any other networks as well but i am going to make a slow return to battle.

Just for today a sad story from Britain.Much more to put on but will spend a hour or two tomorrow.

And also catch up on threads.

And as i have said before a few unexpected changes in your life and the slide into hell can begin.

Couple forced to live in their car after debt spiralled out of control

"At any noise you kind of jump up because you don't know who's about."

– Victoria Sherlock

 

 

http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2015-03-19/couple-forced-to-live-in-their-car-after-debt-spiralled-out-of-control/

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161442/Seven-million-working-adults-breadline-just-away-disaster.html

 

This from 2012, but still relevant today methinks..

 

7 million households just one bill away from financial disaster - no wonder PDLs made such a killing.

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Yes i have just read that article.I believe relevant today for sure.

Cost of living v wages.

If you work by the time you have paid rent mortgage and everything else what are you left with.

We should start a thread somewhere saying what are you left with.

Ian Duncan Smith is a man i am not keen on.

Ever since i saw him walk out Parliament when they were talking about foodbanks.

And Grant Shapps is another chap who flip flopped before getting into power saying payday loans are so bad if and when in power

they will be dealt with.When in power the position changed.It took years of pressure before any kind of action was taken.

Anyone who wants to know what i am talking about a article proving what i am talking about will be made available for both of them.

I understand they may have some friends somewhere.

I am trying not to be bassed but went on a local payday loan protest with my local MP

Gordon Marsden and the NHS protest in Manchester and must admit to being impressed by Andy Burnham MP and Owen Jones and others .I know who was there and who really cares about the ordinary people by the way they get out there and what they say and do.

Mmm better calm down in a moment i will put another article on.

And please have your say agree or disagree you will not offend as i do not mean to offend anyone.

Payday loan article in a mo.

 

Ousted FCA Chief McMillan Joins Payday Lender

 

Zitah McMillan has taken on a top payday lending industry job just weeks after leaving the City regulator, Sky News can reveal.

http://news.sky.com/story/1442268/ousted-fca-chief-mcmillan-joins-payday-lender

 

Nice words from President Obama in America pity we did not hear similar words here a few years ago.

Calling out the small dollar lenders that are seemingly ubiquitous in poor neighborhoods, Obama said: "If you're lending to somebody, knowing they can't pay you back, and you're going to put them on the hook and just squeeze them harder and harder and harder and take more and more money out of them, you're taking advantage of them. ... If you're making (a) profit by trapping hardworking Americans into a vicious cycle of debt, you got to find a new business model."

 

Just as they do and did here take the money that would have been spent in local shops,businesses and jet out of town.

I know Tawnyowl is a little behind with all the news but will catch up.I will check out the latest from the FCA and i follow the CFPB in America and like to catch up on what the legal loan sharks are upto in places like South Africa and other interesting places .

 

 

Certainly makes a difference

Payday loan calculator: see the stark difference before and after the new rules that arrived in January

 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/payday-loan-calculator-see-stark-4983800

 

Must catch up with the news if any of the lenders who might have headed for the hills have been chased and made to pay back their rip off charges,fees etc.

And check out how the payday loan brokers are doing.See if any of them have been brought to task.

Also check out how the good old Credit Unions are doing.

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Bit pushed for time today but maybe old news to some but i could not be more pleased.

A once famous football club accepting sponsorship from a legal loan shark.

Finally no more sights of those words on the shirts.Been a few years of torture around town.

 

Wonga ends Blackpool FC sponsorship deal

 

Payday lender says agreement will finish at the end of current football season

 

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/jan/29/wonga-ends-blackpool-fc-sponsorship-deal

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Wonga announced it would be removing its name from children’s replica kit sold by Newcastle United but not until the 2016-17 season.

 

Why so long before it does this ?

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Why so long before it does this ?

 

prob due to their profitable contract, 4 yr deal 'The removal of the logo will not take place until the 2016-17 football season, the final year of the firm’s sponsorship of the north-east club. Wonga said the delay was due to production schedules' 'production schedules', yeah right! more like is cause at the end of the contract and balancing trying to be seen to be doing something consumer positive?

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/nov/14/wonga-agrees-drop-logo-newcastle-united-childrens-football-kits

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I did not like it when those childrens replica kits came out and feel somewhere back in the mists of time no doubt back in this thread a few of us

will have let rip about it.

I am slightly shocked today in fact stunned.

Old Tawny after over 40 years of working,with only a few breaks found myself looking for work.

CVs etc and mastery of IT etc and computerised whatever.Tills now that are no longer like Arkwrights on open all hours.

I applied and after one day flat was emailed,that wonderful new way of communication.

Turned down flat.I am not saying what job but thought i could do it.

I thought being so many jobs around,so they in power say i was on a definate thing.

I must admit tonight is a right old downer.

Seems a security course it seems so i am told by those wiseones is the way for me to go by those that know.

Dodgy heart etc,best to not say about that.Who will take me on afterwards.Perhaps the oldest security guard at Mothercare perhaps.

Aplogies for going off topic but am lost in a world of modernisation it seems.

Thanks everyone for putting articles and thoughts on about Paydayloans please carry on.Just am so dam confused with things.

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