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    • Euro have got a lot wrong and have failed to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.  According to Section 13 after ECP have written to Arval they should then send a NTH to the Hirer  which they have done.This eliminates Arval from any further pursuit by ECP. When they wrote to your company they should have sent copies of everything that they asked Arval for. This is to prove that your company agree what happened on the day of the breach. If ECP then comply with the Act they are allowed to pursue the hirer. If they fail, to comply they cannot make the hirer pay. They can pursue until they are blue in the face but the Hirer is not lawfully required to pay them and if it went to Court ECP would lose. Your company could say who was driving but the only person that can be pursued is the Hirer, there does not appear to be an extension for a driver to be pursued. Even if there was, because ECP have failed miserably to comply with the Act  they still have no chance of winning in Court. Here are the relevant Hire sections from the Act below.
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I shall not mention who it is here at the moment just in case he would rather I didn't but I greatly appreciate the time he took working through that issue with me. I spent 20+ years of working in an industry that rules and regulations had to be strictly adhered to, indeed, exams had to be taken in order that one had to become qualified in those rules and regulations in order to carry out the duties of the post. In a way, such things as PoFA 2012 are rules and regulations that are not completely alien to me. It has been very enjoyable for me to learn these regulations and the law surrounding them. I wish I had found this forum years ago. I admit that perhaps I had been too keen to express my opinions given that I am still in the learning process. After a suitable period in this industry I became Qualified to teach the rules and regulations and I always said to those I taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. If opinions, theories and observations are put forward, discussion can take place and as long as the result is that the student is able to clearly see where they went wrong and got to that moment where the penny drops then that is a valuable learning experience. No matter how experienced one is, there is always something to learn and if I did not know the answer to a question, I would say, I don't know the answer to that question but I will go and find out what the answer is. In any posts I have made, I have stated, “unless I am wrong” or “as far as I can see” awaiting a response telling me what I got wrong, if it was wrong. If I am wrong I am only too happy to admit it and take it as a valuable learning experience. I take the point that perhaps I should not post on other peoples threads and I shall refrain from doing so going forward. 🤐 As alluded to, circumstances can change, FTMDave made the following point that it had been boasted that no Caggers, over two years, who had sent a PPC the wrong registration snotty letter, had even been taken to court, let alone lost a court hearing .... but now they have. I too used the word "seemed" because it is true, we haven't had all the details. After perusing this forum I believe certain advice changed here after the Beavis case, I could be wrong but that is what I seem to remember reading. Could it be that after winning the above case in question, a claimant could refer back to this case and claim that a defendant had not made use of the appeal process, therefore allowing the claimant to win? Again, in this instance only, I do not know what is to be gained by not making an appeal or concealing the identity of the driver, especially if it is later admitted that the defendant was the driver and was the one to input the incorrect VRN in error. So far no one has educated me as to the reason why. But, of course, when making an appeal, it should be worded carefully so that an error in the appeal process cannot be referred back to. I thought long and hard about whether or not to post here but I wanted to bring up this point for discussion. Yes, I admit I have limited knowledge, but does that mean I should have kept silent? After I posted that I moved away from this forum slightly to find other avenues to increase my knowledge. I bought a law book and am now following certain lawyers on Youtube in the hope of arming myself with enough ammunition to use in my own case. In one video titled “7 Reasons You Will LOSE Your Court Case (and how to avoid them)” by Black Belt Barrister I believe he makes my point by saying the following, and I quote: “If you ignore the complaint in the first instance and it does eventually end up in court then it's going to look bad that you didn't co-operate in the first place. The court is not going to look kindly on you simply ignoring the company and not, let's say, availing yourself of any kind of appeal opportunities, particularly if we are talking about parking charge notices and things like that.” This point makes me think that, it is not such a bizarre judgement in the end. Only in the case of having proof of payment and inputting an incorrect VRN .... could it be worthwhile making a carefully worded appeal in the first instance? .... If the appeal fails, depending on the reason, surely this could only help if it went to court? As always, any feedback gratefully received.
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can anyone offer any information? If you are claiming JSA and have a part time job (signing fortnightly and declaring hours and wage) , and the job isn't working out, can you leave the job and continue on your JSA or will your claim be stopped because you have deliberately made yourself unemployed- even though you have been officially classed as unemployed all along?

 

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You will be asked to complete for es48jp to give your reasons for giving up te job. It might b referred to DMA for a decision if you do leave the job.Part time work is treated the same as full time employment when the employment ends a decision will be required about the payability of your benefit.

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sounds like your working in receipt of benefits anyway and working under 16 hours,personally i would say nothing when they ask have you done any paid or unpaid work say no and obviously you have no wages to declare either your benefit should return to its normal level.

 

if they push for answers then tell them.working under 16 hours allows jobseekers to be paid anyway and really is your choice you declare it,nothing else to do with them. full time is another matter.

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if they push for answers then tell them.working under 16 hours allows jobseekers to be paid anyway and really is your choice you declare it,nothing else to do with them. full time is another matter.

 

Um, hold on there! You have to tell them that you do paid work - no matter how many hours. with the exception of the first £5-£20, JSA is affected.

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that is correct nystagmite,but as the job has ceased only the point paid up to the end has to be declared,working under 16 hours still allows jobseekers,many people are surprised by this and cannot see how you can work and claim jobseekers.

 

as long as the pay has been mentioned i would keep quite about the reasons for it stopping.its also surprising when they search for jobs 15.5 hours "oh that's no good" but 16.5 hours that's different just enough to get someone out the door regardless.

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Thanks JSA12, but I've done everything by the book-declaring hours and wage and will continue to do so. Just wanted to know what would happen if I left and flumps has answered that. Just going to hold on and hope that one of the full times jobs I'm applying for comes up or that I can find enough hours from another job to add to this one.

Thanks everyone.

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yes i am not saying not declare the hours and the wage you have to,but there is a tendency not to be interested in work under 16 hours and its longevity and its future.your still signing.

 

what they are very interested in is sanctions and will use every opportunity to apply one by whatever means there's plenty of horror stories.when i did agency work all i did was declare and a deduction was made from my benefit basically it wasn't worth doing.they weren't interested why it ended

 

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there is a tendency not to be interested in work under 16 hours

 

Which isn't helped by employers pretty much stating "must be flexible". How can you be flexible when you want / need another job to take you off JSA and into full time work?

 

I won't work for under 16 hours. Not me being fussy; but me needing to work more than 16 hours and employers expecting you to be available for work 24/7.

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:mad2:Can anyone help ? I have been doing pwrt time hours and being topped up with jsa for 8 months .Riligiously filing in part time form every singing with the form they give me to document it .All of a sundden they want more proof of earnings sent all my documentation in theyhave lost it .They have suspended jsa since 7/2/2012 .I have just printed off 57 pages of jsa booklet says nothing about part time work suspentions .?

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It's not a suspension regarding part time work it's a suspension of infomation not being received.

The only thing I can suggest is that you contact the Benefits Processing Centre and request a call back to speak to the actual team to determine if the information has been received andthe systems not yet updated due to current backlog of work.

If it hasn't been received you can request an appointment at the JCP for AJCS (pronounced AJAX) to go into the office to orovide duplicate payskips statemts from employers you or whatever it is they require.

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