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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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hi i was claiming incapacity benefit from january 2007 ,it was stopped after a atos assesment in june 2009 ,i was not in the best frame of mind and didn't appeal in the required time allocated ! when i did try and appeal iwas ignored ,i had letters sent back answering the most menial part of my letter etc etc ! I have now launched an appeal with the tribunal , but have been told by friends not to attend without a legal/medical representative .

can anyone advise me as to what i should do .it has taken two years of stress to get this far (with no money ) i have drafted a letter to the C A B asking for assistance .can anyone recommend an advisor that can attend this tribunal with me and present my case ?

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hi nystagmite thank you for your reply.

no i haven't really tried anyone bfore ! i didn't realise how underhand the system can get ,for an idiot like me . thank you for your advise i will look it up !

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Hello there. I'm sorry to hear you're going through this, lots of us here have.

 

Good advice from Nystagmite. In some areas, Welfare Rights are working with CAB nowadays. I hope you find some help.

 

My best, HB

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Hello again Andy. I have a sticky about tribunals in the yellow part of the titles page of this forum. I know that HadEnough used the template letter to draft out a case for Welfare Rights, I think it was, and that it helped him win.

 

Once you have a copy of your Atos assessment, you might want to use the template to help whoever advises you.

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Whether or not you have an adviser, you should attend. Many advice services, although they can help prepare the appeal, may have no funding for going to tribunal with you, and in fact in most cases there is nothing much that the adviser can do when there anyway. The most important things are good preparation, a good written submission (including ripping apart the atos report), written evidence from professionals about your condition, and attending the tribunal yourself so that you can answer any questions the tribunal has.

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thanks all, i wish i had joined this forum years ago !

since i have contacted the appeal tribunal ,and stated my case ,including mentioning that the one doctors finding were totally farcicle ,and the other two times ,atos never had a qualified doctor (their words not mine) i have been sent another questionairre which i have filled in ! i dont know if this is due to the tribunal people stepping ing or are they just getting their house in order for the hearing .i have been deceived so many times by these people i dont know what ! or who to beleive !

i realise that all these helpful agencies are short of funding so it will be hard ! does any body know if i am allowed to record the hearing (if there is one ) these atos people are not to be trusted in any way !

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thanks HB

just found the template letter you recommended ! brilliant i never knew the approach should be legal as well a medical ! great add on by bookworm as well .i just think i might be too far down the road for that ! my particular problem is that the dwp/atos have stalled me until i am out of the 13 months appeal date ! the problem was i wrote a few times not knowing they were going to be as underhand as they are ! i never recorded my letters or kept records ! ireally have been stupid think a good guy out there would pick up my letters and direct themin the correct way ! i dont really have a credible file except a few letters of exchange between us ! but in all i meantion the words my appeal so i am hoping any proper person will realise i have been steared away from what i am entitled to ! but who knows?

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Andy, I think you should take advice from CAB and/or Welfare Rights or the Community Legal team. I'm not expert in the system and you may need to apply again for ESA [don't take my word for it] but if you end up at the appeal stage, then this time you'll know what to do.

 

The template is based on what my OH drew up for my own appeal, using the DWP rulebook and it worked for me and since I shared it, for some other caggers too. I think you will get there, but you need people to guide you down the right route.

 

My best, HB

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It is not illegal to record Atos or the DWP. It is illegal (very unfortunately) to record an administrative tribunal such as hears benefits appeals. (Why on flaming earth shouldn’t we,?….but the law’s the law, and it would be a criminal offence.)

So the answer is to insist on taking laborious manuscript notes and typing them up immediately afterwards (keeping the original handwritten notes as well.)

That having been said, a cynical colleague of mine once observed that it is funny how those with the best mobile phones\MP3 recorders etc also seem to have the best memories for detail when typing up full notes. I don’t know what she can have meant.

Frankly with recent judicial announcement that some judges will now be using laptops in court, the law is making an ass of itself about this - but there it is.

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hi all again ! thank you for your advice which i was in the throws of taking when out of the blue expecting and apperance date fron the first tier tribunal i have recieved a letter saying my appeal has ben struck off it says no further action can be taken on my appeal for i b ! does anybody know if i can appeal against the decision ! there are factual errors in their reasons for the decision !

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You can apply to the tribunal service to have the appeal reinstated within one month of it being struck out, giving them the reasons why you feel they were wrong to strike out your appeal.

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

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