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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Hi all,

 

I rcvd a letter from the compliance HMRC team, they found out that i claimed my income for 09/10 was £12,420 and but the figure from my employer was £28,760.

 

£28,760 was indeed my actual income. I have been asked to contact them urgently.I know am in in trouble, but am glad this is finally out. i have not been sleeping for days as i had been carrying this guilt with me since.

All these started when my child started nursery and all the WC +CTC +CHB used to pay for my child's Nursery fees. I am depressed, been crying as i don't know what to do.

 

Pls help. What do i say when i call the compliace team, will i go to prison?. will they notify my employer e.t.c?.....

 

I do not have any excuse, but i must say as i single working Mum, having to pay all the bills and getting my child to go to nursery while am at work, TC was my the only way to survive. i don't claim any other welfare benefits.

 

Please Advise me, what can i say to them when i call, or do i just keep quiet and let them send me an overpayment letter? does it work like that?.

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Hello Arike, welcome to the forum.

 

We're not here to judge, and you will get some help on how to approach this. I think you should contact them soon, as it will look better than just hiding. HMRC are never in the wrong, as they see it and you do have something to be concerned about here.

 

You will have to pay back the money, but I'd say prison is unlikely and usually a last resort. Have a read around the forum, because there have been lots of cases recently. Your local CAB should be able to advise you and have links with HMRC. I know someone was going to ask them to contact HMRC on their behalf, but I don't remember what happened.

 

Try not to worry too much, just go about sorting this now it's in the open.

 

I hope someone who's been through this will know what to say to the compliance team, or that the CAB will be able to help.

 

HB x

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Hello Arike, welcome to the forum.

 

We're not here to judge, and you will get some help on how to approach this. I think you should contact them soon, as it will look better than just hiding. HMRC are never in the wrong, as they see it and you do have something to be concerned about here.

 

You will have to pay back the money, but I'd say prison is unlikely and usually a last resort. Have a read around the forum, because there have been lots of cases recently. Your local CAB should be able to advise you and have links with HMRC. I know someone was going to ask them to contact HMRC on their behalf, but I don't remember what happened.

 

Try not to worry too much, just go about sorting this now it's in the open.

 

I hope someone who's been through this will know what to say to the compliance team, or that the CAB will be able to help.

 

HB x

 

 

Thanks for d quick response HB, I don't mind paying back, i know this will be very difficult. but will give me peace of mind. I cannot help worrying, i just hope i will get over this!!! Will they prosecute me?

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As you have committed fraud, there is a likelihood that they will prosecute.

 

The fact that they have found out your fraud, rather than you declaring it first will count against you.

 

I would take up legal advice ASAP.

 

Does depend how much it is for of course. Solicitor I just spoke to said they wont for under 2k. It's not cost effective. Although the OP is probably looking at more than that. But ex sis in law had a tax credit overpayment of 3k & just had to pay it back.

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From the information you have provided, this is a civil investigation not a criminal one. Prosecution for tax credits is extremely uncommon in comparison to other benefits. HMRC's policy for tax credit is to use civil recovery wherever possible, not prosecution. Their aim is to recover the funds overpaid. It appears they have written to you to invite you to provide a full disclosure. If you provide them with the correct information in full, the chances of it being transferred to the criminal investigators is slim to none, though they may charge you a penalty. Providing a full disclosure can also significantly reduce any penalty that they plan to charge.

 

Failure to respond or a partial disclosure can mean that the investigation may be transferred to the criminal investigations department. Otherwise if you respond with a full disclosure there is a high chance that all they will do is recover the overpayment and perhaps charge a penalty.

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Thanks all. I will call them. I guess i need to give a full disclosure as i want to get this over and done with. i will pay any OP as i know i was wrong and had no excuse.

Kindly let me know, will I only have to repay any overpayment /and penalty and not get any criminal record or prosecution? (giving false/misleading information)

I am really scared. i would love to come out clean so i can carry on , it's as if my whole world is crumbling!!!!

 

Another question pls, can sm1 who is not eligible for WTC be entlttled to Child care element of WTC ,. and what income can you be getting to be ineligible for WTC?

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Another question pls, can sm1 who is not eligible for WTC be entlttled to Child care element of WTC ,. and what income can you be getting to be ineligible for WTC?

 

The cut off for WTC is around £18k. You can still claim child care costs if you receive no WTC due to income.

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Not totally referring to you OP, just in general, but how does that work, that someone can deliberately lie on a form to do with tax, gain thousands from it & not be prosecuted & end up with a criminal record, but someone that fails to notice errors on another benefit can be prosecuted & end up with a criminal record?

Strange world we live in....

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hi, i am in a similar postion to you. I had been claiming about £7000 too much in childcare over the last year. Payments were correct for about 2 months then dropped hours and childcare day's but didn't notify change in child care. This went on for 10 months! On friday I decided enough was enough, I wasnever caught or asked for details of childcare etc but I couldn't live with knowing what I had done. So I went to CAB admited everything, they called tax credits after I sorted my figures out and they were actually fine with it. The CAB advisor explained the more I put it off the more I felt I couldn't call and was falling into a dark hole of fraud :(

I couldn't sleep, eat or even think straight. I'd look at my kid's and cry convinced I was going to prison.

Basically I'm now awaiting a letter of overpayment, luckily I have half the money to pay back stright away the rest I'll have to skimp and save for the rest of the year to but right my wrong doing.

Please jut speak to them, they already know you've done wong, they will just want you to sort it out asap and start paying it back. However, I will add that telling them false information is worse that not telling them a change of circumstances as you have purposely misled them, but honesty really is the best policy. The chance of being taken to court for this is quite small judging by the cases on here

good luck xxx

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I do agree and found it amazing that it happens.

Normally the Tax man, (HMRC) goes for the jugular, one of the very few that would make a person bankrupt.

 

It's real strange isn't it. People fraudulantly claiming thousands, oh that's ok, it's not counted as fraud, you'll just have to pay it back. Where's the interview under caution?? Where's the threat to their job &/or any future chances of getting a job if they get taken to court, wheres the story splashed on the front page of the local rag, even giving the fraudsters address!?

Apparently there is a drop in fraudulant benefit claims in the last few years, I have my own theory on that, it's probably because they know now the tax credit one is an easier ride! lol

No offense to anyone on this thread, but it's all rse about face isn't it to be honest.

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Hi, i'm in similar position ,I have declared income of £12145 instead of £16107 and they found out.I recieved letter from CSSG from Irleand (bit confused as I live in UK)

Have responded to them admiting that I have done wrong and want to pay back everything I have been overpaid asap,today I recived another letter saing that they need to deal with the finalisation of my tax credit award for 2010-2011 I am confused! please advise me on this

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Hi

I have received a letter from the hmrc saying that they have selected my award for review and that there were some discrepencies in the claim, They have the amounts i have told them and the actual amounts they hold from 2010 and 2011 they said they are extending their enquiries to cover the earlier (2010) claim under section 20(4) whatever that is. i mistakenly told them my husbands wages were 16000 gave them the info for after tax not before, and they are actually 21000, also i didnt realise that u had to declare the tax my husband pay on his car, As i didnt realise u had to declare it as we dont actually recieve the money so why is it classed as income. so now his wages have gone up to 30,679.00 a year, This is for both years. i had the usual panic as i have read everyone has done. but phoned them the follwing day(im also sending a letter confirming this just incase they lose the phonecall) and explained to the lady on the phone all of this and admitted that it was my mistake (although its not very clear to people who dont understand tax etc). She told me not to worry, she said she would send the info on and they would change my claim etc.

 

As i said above im still waiting to hear from them,

 

Cp1978 have u had any payments go in since u let them know your situation ???

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