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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Although I am completely new to this site I would like to extend 'Seasons greetings to all users'.

 

I have received a PCN from a company called G24 Ltd. I mistakenly ovestayed my welcome whilst visiting / shopping for DIY goods at Wickes superstore in Maidstone.

 

I have take the opportunity to read many posts dating back years and the consensus of opinion seems to be not to respond / even acknowledge receipt of said notice. My question to the forum is, is this still the same stance to take?

 

Thank you in anticipation

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Keroan, I am in exactly the same situation G24, Wickes (Hereford). Perhaps we can team up and share experiences?

 

So far I have read much that says do not reply but I am slightly concerned that if it does go to court that this might not go in my favour. I am considering a short response that as keeper of the vehicle refutes their 'invoice' and asks them to take it up with the 'driver' on that day. I may also include a sentence that informs them that future correspondence will be chargeable on a per letter basis (30 mins at my hourly rate).

 

Overall though I am looking for a way to end this quickly as I do not want to be receiving threatening letters for months to come.

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3I£mental. Continue to ignore until to get actual court papaers which is highly unlikely. If you do, there is plenty advice on how to defend and win. After all ther ae no statures for parking incorrectly on private land. The most they can do you for is trespass and then they have to prove the damage the LL suffered. this will mean that someone has to represent Wickes in court. Somehow I doubt it.

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I am going to go with the advice on this forum, which is after all why we are here, the members on here who have been there and 'got the T shirt' to coin a phrase.

 

1. Ignore

2. Ignore

3. Then revert to note 1.

 

If I write to anyone it will be Wickes Store Manager, to question why he thinks they should put a time limit on their customers shopping habits. I am a regular user of Wickes and was totally oblivious to this parking [problem]. On inspection these signs are 8 feet off the ground and barely visible.

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Keroan, I am in exactly the same situation G24, Wickes (Hereford). Perhaps we can team up and share experiences?

 

So far I have read much that says do not reply but I am slightly concerned that if it does go to court that this might not go in my favour. I am considering a short response that as keeper of the vehicle refutes their 'invoice' and asks them to take it up with the 'driver' on that day. I may also include a sentence that informs them that future correspondence will be chargeable on a per letter basis (30 mins at my hourly rate).

 

Overall though I am looking for a way to end this quickly as I do not want to be receiving threatening letters for months to come.

 

I too have received a "parking fine" from Wickes (Hereford). However the pictures show the supposed time of entry but cannot see registration as dark exit picture is clearer and can see registration. Do I respond and ask for another picture or ignore ?

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I am placing my trust in the advice on this page and ignoring G24 until such time as they issue court proceedings. I think that the fact that this is a free carpark is very much in our favour as they can only pursue this on the basis of loss incurred by Wickes. I am hoping this makes going to court highly unlikely.

 

I suggest we post details of any further communications from G24 here?

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I have now received a second letter from G24. It stated that as I had not responded within the 14 day time limit I no longer qualified for the saving of £20 they had generously extended to me and the full amount of £95 was now due.

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I have now received a second letter from G24. It stated that as I had not responded within the 14 day time limit I no longer qualified for the saving of £20 they had generously extended to me and the full amount of £95 was now due.

Ah shame. Do they really think you are going to pay these swindlers? Continue to use their toilet paper to light the fire at home.

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Tks for the update Keroan, I assume you will ignore this one too? You seem to be a week or so ahead of the 3 of us with G24 letters in this thread so please continue to keep us advised of developments (as I will). Tks to Surfer01 for your comments too!

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Hi GENTS,

 

Here is a further update to my G24 expereience.

 

Have now received a letter entitled FINAL NOTICE.

 

The first paragraph has a mistake by stating " On the 15 Dec 2010 you were the driver of the vehicle registration .................etc. :???:

 

How do they know if yours truly was the driver? :???:

 

It goes on to say "This Final Notice was sent, as driver of the vehicle as full payment has not beeen received.

 

A reduced amount was offered for payment within 14 days.

 

It is now too late to pay the reduced amount.

 

THE OUTSTANDING AMOUNT IS NOW £95.00

 

Failure to pay the outstanding amount will result in G24 Ltd forwarding the outstanding charge to a Debt Recovery Agency.:lol:

There's the update, just got to wait for the next threat letter now

 

Keroan8-)

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Hello,

 

I got one of these tickets last May whilst driving my daughters car. She recieved a letter in the post and i was about to write a cheque then 'googled G24'. Swiftly ripped up the cheque and never paid. They wrote about 5 or 6 and then i wrote to them pretending to be my daughter and said i was not paying and that i was not driving the car. Not heard anything since August last year.

 

G24 can go whistle.

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I got one yesterday, having spent 2 hours 15 minutes researching bathrooms a couple of weeks ago. I think they can take a run.

 

next time i go to Wickes though, I will stop the car and stick 2 fingers up to the camera. Can I suggest everyone does the same? it probably won't achieve anything, but will make me smile when I think that the bloke who has to look at the pictures is being abused by us all.

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I got one yesterday, having spent 2 hours 15 minutes researching bathrooms a couple of weeks ago. I think they can take a run.

 

next time i go to Wickes though, I will stop the car and stick 2 fingers up to the camera. Can I suggest everyone does the same? it probably won't achieve anything, but will make me smile when I think that the bloke who has to look at the pictures is being abused by us all.

Don't forget that they will have your registration number and a rude gestrue could be interpreted many ways. Would love to do it but don't want further hassles.

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I too have received a "parking fine" from Wickes (Hereford). However the pictures show the supposed time of entry but cannot see registration as dark exit picture is clearer and can see registration. Do I respond and ask for another picture or ignore ?

 

I decided to go against advice and sent the following letter

I am writing with regard to the above PCN which you recently issued to my address. I am contesting this initially on two grounds.

Firstly on the photograph allegedly showing my car entering the car park the registration cannot be seen although somehow you have managed to reproduce a number plate below it.

Secondly you state the parking terms and conditions are clearly displayed – this is not true. At the time of night the car was parked the car park is in complete darkness and the signs cannot be seen. We have photographic evidence to support this.

I await your response and should I not receive one within 14 days of the date of this letter I will assume the matter is closed.

Received a reply within 5 days stating the matter was now closed. Hope you all luck in your dealings with this company.

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