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    Exclamation 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Having read a few threads re MNBA, they seem to settle at the lbaicon stage. So you wont get the 8% interesticon will you?
    Is it possible to change the LBA letter to state that you will be adding the 8% to the total as of now, and if they want to settle they must now pay that amount as well?
    Any thoughts

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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Unfortunately not. The s.69 8% interesticon is allowable at the discretion of the courts - if you don't actually raise the claim you do not get the interest.

    However, if you are feeling brave enough to claim contractual interest, as the bank charges you, then the prelim and lbaicon are the stages at which to do this.

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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    No that won't work. You can only add this when you issue the claim with the county courticon

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    Requested repayment of charges 10 November 2006
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    Requested repayment of charges 14 August 2006
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    Estimated £468 in fines and interest.
    Initiated claim at MCOL 20 September 2006
    Claiming £615.47 including fines & interest, s69 interest and costs
    Claim acknowledged 10 October 2006
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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    I am at the stage when i sent my DPA SARicon request
    They replied (@45days) with a list of charges (£900) and a couple of copy statements along with my £10 cheque. Also an offer of £420 for goodwill.
    I am going to send a lbaicon on the basis that they didnt send all the info as requested and havent fulfilled my SARicon request.

    As I only have their list of charges and to get the contractural interesticon i will need all my statements.
    SO in my LBA do i state the amount as per their chrages as a initial amount to be confirmed when they send all the info?
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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Basically yes. But first you send the preliminary request for repayment, the lbaicon is 14 days later.

    You need to include the charges that you know about, and make a note that the figure will be amended once they fulfil their obligation to provide you with ALL the information requested with the DPA request.

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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    I thought i sent the lbaicon based on the fact that they haven't provided the DPA SARicon information within the 40 day time limit?
    The action i will be taking is for them to disclose all info, which they havent done.


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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Their non-compliance with your Data Protection Act request is an issue for The Information Commissioner. Your lbaicon needs to let them know that you will be reporting their failure to comply, and also that you claim is estimated at this point - and will reflect the true value of the penalties once they have complied.

    You may want to try and get all your statements online - HSBCicon goes back six years, so you can actually work out exactly what you are claiming be refunded...

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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Quote Originally Posted by roydosan
    No that won't work. You can only add this when you issue the claim with the county courticon
    Roy

    Im sure this is not correct, CCA interesticon is only there for claims where there is no contracual rate of interest hence why it can only be awarded by the courts.

    Our contracts do have a contractual rate, you dont need the court to determine what the rate is or indeed if you can claim any interest, that is if you accept the reciprocity and mutality concepts.

    In the same way your bank or cc company charge you interest on money you borrow, they dont need to go to court to enforce that because its part of the contract. THereofre you are chargingn them in the same way they are charging you.

    You then add interest at the prelim and lbaicon stages
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    http://www.consumeractiongroup.c o.uk/forum/general/7252-new-way-looking-interest.html
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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    This is the letter I am going to send to them:

    Dear Ms Claridge

    ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxxxxx


    I am in receipt of the documents that you have supplied in response to my Data Protection Act Subject access requesticon dated
    15th July 2006. The disclosure of personal data is incomplete in that at least the following documents are missing.

    1) You have failed to provide a complete list of transactions and charges.

    2) You have provided no notes, or documents relating to any legal action between you and myself.
    3) You have provided no notes, or documents relating to instances of manual intervention.

    This is not an exhaustive list by any means, it is just an example of some of the information I am missing.

    Accordingly, I have to tell you that you have not yet complied with your obligations under the Data Protection Act 1998.

    The time for compliance with my request has now expired. If you do not comply fully with my Subject access requesticon within 7 days, I shall apply to the county courticon for an order to enforce compliance, together with damages at the discretion of the court.

    I have also re-enclosed the £10 fee along with a copy of the original request.

    Yours faithfully,

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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Yep that looks OK but also add that you will be making a complaint to the IC if they don't comply within 40 days.

    You should apply contractual interesticon at your prelim letter.


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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    Glenn,

    I take what you say about the contractual interesticon but it is open to interpretation and I think most people would rather play on the safe side, follow the FAQs and claim for interest they have actually been charged and then the 8% when the court claim is raised.

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    Data Protection Act letter sent 3 July 2006.
    Incomplete list of charges received 12 August 2006
    Requested repayment of charges 10 November 2006
    LBA sent 24 November 2006
    Estimated £4650 in fines and interest.
    Barclaycard
    Data Protection Act letter sent 3 July 2006.
    Incomplete statements sent 9 July 2006
    Requested repayment of charges 14 August 2006
    LBA sent 30 August 2006
    Estimated £468 in fines and interest.
    Initiated claim at MCOL 20 September 2006
    Claiming £615.47 including fines & interest, s69 interest and costs
    Claim acknowledged 10 October 2006
    Defence filed 20 October 2006
    Settled in full £640 total. 14 December 2006
    Vodafone
    Requested Default Notice removed 10 July 2006
    Received letter agreeing to request 10 August 2006

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    Default Re: 8% Interest at LBA Stage

    The letter is fine, and yes, it must mention that you will report them to the Information Commissioner.

    Regarding interesticon you do have two choices: contractual interest, which is claimed at this stage, or s.69 8%, which is claimed ONLY when you raise your claim in the courts.

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