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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
    • Well done on reading the other threads. If ECP haven't got the guts to do court then there is no reason to pay them. From other threads there is a 35-minute free stay after which you need to pay, with the signs hidden where no-one will read them.  Which probably explains why ECP threaten this & threaten that, but in the end daren't do court. As for your employer - well you can out yourself as the driver to ECP so the hamster bedding will arrive at yours.  Get your employer to do that using the e-mail address under Appeals and Transfer Of Liability.  
    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
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Hi,

I shard house with friend’s friend for couple of weeks(over 9 month ago ), When i moved to friends property i asked council tax office to amend my old address and contact me at new address . I told them im not the only person living here and made it clear that this is temporary move, however they registered me as resident of the new place and now that i moved out of that place they still billing and bullying me for not paying my bills , ( they billing me for next 15 month all together! ) , I have asked friends friend to take care of his property, but he is not phoning the council ltax, because if they do then they be liable and the CT office will chase them instead ...

Initially council tax asked for tenancy agreement but there was nothing signed between us...

They then asked me to write to them with landlord details and date i livid there which i did and provided them with friends details..

2 month later they still billing me and asking me to go to court and explain not paying my bills ..

After couple of phone calls
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they then asked me for tenancy agreement from new landlord, I send them whatever i had ( informal tenancy agreement for a room which i lived in) + royal mail redirection letter confirmation ... now after 2 chase up ... they aksing for letter from new landlord to confirm the details of informal tenancy agreement ..( which im due to send them tomorrow)

Im fedup with their customer servie, every time I email or write to them it takes them 28 days to receive it and update their system and make up their mind about what comes next .. it seems as if they not trusting me and im stuck in a stressfull loop. I dont think if they should have put me on their system in first place! Also not happy with friends friend for not paying his tax... i still got his text messages saying he has phoned them but all lies ...

Can I take CT staff to court over this?my rent which i paid to friends friend included the tax and I only owned a room, so i was not meant to get billed for this property in first place... i phoned them and asked for manager but they didn’t put me through. I also liked to teach friends friend a lesson if possible.

its been 6 month since i left that property and CT is still not convinced that i dnt live in that address no more ... its the greatest stress i had in past 12 month.

Thanks for your support

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The court appearance will be a liability hearing and not a proper court so no witness etc required. Just show up at the court at the time and date shown on the summons and you can tell the judge and show him the paperwork to prove you don't owe and he will decline the liability request. There will be a council rep there and my betting is that when you speak to (usually a her) that the claim against you will be deleted and won't get into the court for stamping.

 

This isn't the same a being summoned to court for a general debt, and no county court judgement is awarded against you or recorded.

 

But remember you must attend if you dispute it or it will go against you and that will make it harder for you to get is sorted especially when it has been handed over to bailiffs to collect.

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  • 4 weeks later...

thanks for the info, they have recieved my latest post and amended the account so I got billed for the period that i lived there only. but they also charging me about 57extra for late payment and stuff.I dnt think its my fault because I always responded to their bill in a timely manner, but they kept asking me for more and more documents each time which is why it has taken so long... I phoned them and said if I can pay the amount without fine I then put it in writing expaining why .. but they only accept full payment, i was adviced to pay full payment and then write to the headquater and follow up ...am I suppose to pay that exra fine ?

they are demanding for the money within next 14 days... and if I write to them it will take another 28 days for them to respond which is very annoying ..

they guy on the said he can see that i have always kept in touch and its all recorded on their system ... in the last email i recieved they apologized for late response as well.

this is too much bullying :(

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