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    Default Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Hi Guys,

    Since I requested my S.A.R on 1st Aug - sent recorded of course, I still have not received any statements. I put in a call to Mr Mclean 14 days after, he referred me to someone else, I was then informed that they had my request and that the 40 days started from when they would get to it!!??!

    Is this right ? - or should I stick to my timetable ? - reading other threads, RBOS tend to be quite quick in dealing with this request, nearly one one and nothing

    Anyone else getting delays? - what further steps should be taken ??

    Your thoughts greatly appreciated.

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    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    From what I've read its your timetable and not theirs.


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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Cheers for that, I will stick to my 40 days... the more they wriggle, the tighter the rope becomes....

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Hi, guys - still no word from RBOS, can you believe this !!! - I think they are playing a waiting game. Anyone else experiencing long delays in getting statements etc??- I can't be the only one ??

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    I sent my letter to Bank of Scotlandicon on 16th June asking for my statements for the past years. On 30th I had telephone callicon, who said there was charge of £5 and could he take that from my account. I agred. When I came back from holidayicon on 15th August, no statements had been receieved. When I telephoned, they said there had been insufficient funds in my account to meet the £5 charge. I referred him to my account and he agreed that it had been paid and that I would receive my statements within the next five working days. They did arrive, but only for last two years, so I sent letter pointimg out that they had contravened legislation by not sending me my statements and extending beyound the 40 days. awaiting the next statements. So far for the last two years thye have made charges of £5292.51


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    Wink Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Well finally after constant chasing and empty promises.... still no statements, not even a letter to confirm that they had my request. 40 days are up and my lbaicon letter is going in the post !! - I think that I have been fair with them, so bring it on !!!!!!!

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Flyboy,

    have you been dealing with your Branch? If not, then I would start rather rapidly. Most of us get more satisfaction going local rather than going National until just before the MCOL stage. Infact, the best address for your MCOL(assuming you're not in Scotland), is your own Branch. The majority of delays in other people's threads have been due to faffs at Head Office. Keep it local and it seems to get results quicker. Also I'm sure Tommy McLean is just batting people off cos he's fed up with everyone having a go!

    Poor pet lamb!

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    The Bank of Scotlandicon have a rule in action in action in Scotland not to reply to letters. But hey I guess with a wee threat o action agin them they might respond.


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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Flyboy, Your missing the "1st request for repayment" stage, not sure if that matters, but your jumping straight into the letter before actionicon.

    As I say, I don't know if that matters, my 14 days are up on Thursday, so I'll be sending off the LBA on Thursday. Keep us posted on what happens so I can prepare myself

    01/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - S.A.R sent
    24/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Statements Received
    31/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - 1st Request sent
    13/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - LBA sent
    23/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Offer received £1544 (Thanks but no thanks)
    02/10/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - *WON* Full settlement

    07/07/09- First Plus PPI - S.A.R sent
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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Good spot sleepz,

    follow the rule and go through the procedure. If you don't need the information then what's the point in asking for it? Flyboy80, you need to go through the Request for Payment (1st approach) first before diving straight in with the lbaicon.

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Nice one.... got a bit carried away so ...but I will redress, already sent the lbaicon but will send the Request for Payment tommorow, shouldn't make a difference, should it, can always send the LBA again !!!

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    This may sound stupid, and I apologise if it has been asked before but, as I do not have any statements so far, what figure is put in the letter - prelim ? Do I base it on the last year that I can obtain online ??

    Your thoughts appreciated.

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    You should wait untill you get your statements.
    It wouldn't be a good idea to claim back say £300 from last year, then in a couple of weeks, when you get your statements, up it to £3000 or whatever.

    If I was you, i'd hold off, phone your bank and talk to them about it.
    Have a copy of the Non-compliance document to hand, so you can quote from it if need be (ie, "Section 7 of the Data Protection Act 1998" etc).

    Then also send a copy of the non compliance letter to the bank.

    The letter can be found here :
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...n-act-non.html

    I think 'be calm and patient' is the best advice at this stage, you don't want to rush into anything, or get angry and start threatening the bank, if you take it slow, calm and collected your less likely to make any mistakes. I know it's said all over the place but this isn't a "get rich quick scheme", bear in mind the bank will have a highly paid legal team working your request, follow the steps to the letter and they won't have anything to work on, if you start deviating from the course, ie sending an lbaicon without including what your claiming for, or asking for a refund without telling them what you want refunded ... their legal team will tear you apart and you'll be lucky to come out of it with anything. Sorry if that sounds patronising, were all in the same boat and we should all look out for each other.

    01/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - S.A.R sent
    24/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Statements Received
    31/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - 1st Request sent
    13/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - LBA sent
    23/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Offer received £1544 (Thanks but no thanks)
    02/10/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - *WON* Full settlement

    07/07/09- First Plus PPI - S.A.R sent
    18/07/09- First Plus PPI - S.A.R received
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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Well said Sleepz,

    unless you have all of the information to hand you are going to go off half cocked. Just check yourself for a while and go through things systematically. Start with your statements, deal with your Branch in the first instance, you will probably end up dealing with the Assistant Manager, be pleasant cos she only works there!

    Make sure you get your information in one sock and then go for the jugular. Don't send the Bank any more letters, you will just end up making yourself look silly and your case will lack comittment.

    Keep your chin up!

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Cheers for the input, I will start again with my local bank, what about any monies already sent to Head office, do I just pay £10 again and claim this back later ?

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Hold on guys, unless I have confused the letters lbaicon, I have already sent to them template 3 which your link suggests !?! - this is the right one I should have sent - right ?

    01.08.06 - RBOS - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request

    01.08.06 - Alliance @ Leicester Credit Card - S.A.R sent
    03.09.06 - £495 owed - Alliance and Leicester sent cheque for £130 - Accepted as partial payment
    03.09.06 Alliance & Leicester - LBA letter sent to recover remainder

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    But have you sent Template 1 and 2? What have you asked for. Tell us in simple words what you have done so far. As for your £10, was it a cheque, has it been cashed? If not, call your Branch and cancel it. Deal through your Branch and you should minimise any further problems

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    flyboy,
    I can see that the lbaicon you mention is not the LBA for claiming charges, its the one for non-compliance with the S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon). So as far as I can see, you've sent the S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) and received nothing. Your 40 days is up so following that, you've sent the LBA that threatens court action if the information you requested is not received in the next 7 days. Is this correct? I think people are getting mixed up with what you've done as people usually refer to that as the 'S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) non-compliance letter' and the LBA usually refers to the actual claiming of charges.

    There are step by step instructions here:
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ease-feel.html

    I don't profess to know everything there is to know about all this as I'm still in early stages myself, but I do know it's really important to stick to the proper order of things, stick to timetables etc.

    See also this:
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...very-sick.html

    As a few wise people told me, keep all the info you find that is relevant or useful on your pc. If you're not sure of anything, ask before you go ahead with it, otherwise like sleepz says 'their legal team will tear you apart and you'll be lucky to come out of it with anything'.

    I hope you don't take this the wrong way, I'm not having a go, like I say I'm relatively new to this myself. But I do think its important that we all stick together and follow the 'rules'

    PS. Last time I cancelled a cheque it cost £10, BC, so is it worth it?!!

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    Sorry, off topic but quote of the day from the "Very sick" link ...

    "Some people have even got the parties the wrong way round and have sued themselves!!! "

    Genius!

    01/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - S.A.R sent
    24/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Statements Received
    31/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - 1st Request sent
    13/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - LBA sent
    23/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Offer received £1544 (Thanks but no thanks)
    02/10/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - *WON* Full settlement

    07/07/09- First Plus PPI - S.A.R sent
    18/07/09- First Plus PPI - S.A.R received
    22/07/09
    - First Plus PPI - Initial request sent

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    Default Re: Flyboy80 vs RBOS

    This is all getting a little confusing!

    Flyboy,
    tell us slowly what actions you have taken so far. Have you read - very carefully - the FAQs? Then we can advise you and help you back on the straight an (very) narrow!

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