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    Default Tigs33 v Abbey *** WON ***

    Hi everybody,

    Excellent site

    Yesterday I prepared my preliminary letter to the Abbeyicon requesting £2,700 charges going back 7.5 years (I have bank statements) on a joint account. I will post this letter special delivery today at lunchtime.

    Fully prepared to take this all the way to court

    This week I will also be preparing a letter to HSBCicon for the sum of £800.

    Wish me luck

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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Welcome.

    You can only claim for the last 6 yearsicon.

    There is an arguement that you may be able to go back further, but as yet it's untested.


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Hi Michael,

    Well as I have got the last 7.5 years statements I am going for the full lot, they can take me to court if they want to. I can prove the unlawfull charges even if they don't have the paperwork.

    If I have to be the first one to go back further so be it


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Well only £241 of the charges relate to prior to June 2000, so the majority of the claim is well within the 6 yearsicon.

    Most of the charges were in 2001 and 2002, one month in 2002 they charged us £240 in one month!! being young and naive we just paid the charges.


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Hi Tigs, I'm sure you have but have a good read about first - theres a lot of discussion on here on the whys and wherefores of claiming back further than 6 years..... have a look at this first - you dont want to jeopordise your whole case by exceeding the statute of limitationsicon in your claim.

    esp if most of your charges are within the time limit anyways.....


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    There are 1 or 2 threads where people have done the same (can't remember where) and they've been paid with no arguement about the 6 year rule.

    But if it ever actually got to court (not likely I know) I think it would be a different story.

    Good luck anyway


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    read what Bankfodder has to say about it: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...laim-back.html

    He agrees that you can but don't mention the statute oflimitations.


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    My understanding from reading these forums is that I can adjust my claim up to the point of going court. I will leave the full 7.5 years in at present but when I put in the claim form to the courts I will consider only making the claim for the 6 yearsicon. I haven't sent my lbaicon yet.

    Do you think this will be ok?


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Cunning plan!


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Hi Tigs33, just to keep you informed, have had my standard reply and am now going to send lbaicon.

    How are you getting on?


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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    lbaicon is being sent tomorrow!!! I must admit after reading a lot of the threads I am finding this quite enjoyable. Me and the OH are going through all of our bank/credit cards/loans etc and I reckon in total we will see about 10k returned to us.

    REFUNDED
    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court

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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Well Natwesticon have now confirmed our step account and account number so if the Abbeyicon decide to close this account I don't care!!!!!! lol well there is only two standing orders coming out of it anyway but we do have a cheque books and a visa card which is handy.

    REFUNDED
    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court

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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Just to update this one, completed the Moneyclaim today £2,492.50 charges, 779.47 interesticon, £120 court fee, total £3391.97

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    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court

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    When I originally sent my letter to Abbeyicon requesting charges I included a charge dated 30/06/00, my prelim letter was dated 26/06/06 I have now filed a claim online and the solicitors are saying that I have included charges which are statue barred?? surely in my claim I couldn't go back any further than 27/06/00?? or have I got it wrong?? Or should the claim be from when I filed the MCOL??

    I am going to reply to the solicitor but I want to point out that they have made a mistake.

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    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court

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    Default Re: Tigs33 V Abbey

    Well DLA have sent a letter offering us £1755.94 (they also enclosed a copy of their defence) I am going to say I will have that in part settlement and I am after the rest ;

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    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court

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    Default Re: is this charge statue barred??

    This is only my opinion, but i would've thought you would be right to go for this charge as its within the six years as of when you sent your prelim, if they are going by mcol lots of people wont be getting all their charges back! i think this is a scaring tactic by them but i would check other replies if i were you? hope this helps?

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    Default Re: is this charge statue barred??

    Thanks it is only one charge that they could complain about as the next charge was in August 2000. It is only for £60. As for a scare tactic, it takes far far more than their silly solicitor with their pitiful defence to scare me

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    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court

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    Default Re: is this charge statue barred??

    Good for you! good luck tigs!

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    Default Re: is this charge statue barred??

    The statute of limitationsicon runs from when you started the procedure to reclaim your unlawful bank charges, so date of your Prelim. Tell them they can go to court and ask the judge to decide whether it's statute barred.


    Having said that, this should be part of your Abbeyicon thread, so I'm going to merge them.

    Apologies to people who I was in the process of helping, I may be gone some time.

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    Default Re: is this charge statue barred??

    Thanks Bookworm, I will draft my letter out over the weekend, should be interesting lol It makes me fume that in their "defence" they keep harping on about I could have applied for an agreed overdrafticon, this I tried to do on a couple of ocassions but was told by the bank that I mustn't be overdrawn for the previoius 6 months, well their charges made me overdrawn!!! I did try and make sure the account didn't go overdrawn but they didn't help things.

    REFUNDED
    Hubbys - HSBC £4,165 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £651 paid 18/8 after MCOL issued
    HSBC - £147 Prel 7/8, LBA 21/8, MCOL 6/9 £241
    Hubby Halifax - Prel 29/7 £215, LBA 21/8, Offer rec. £110 22/8, MCOL 6/9 £298
    Abbey - £2758 - Prel 26/6, LBA 10/7 - MCOL 26/7 £3,391, offer 25/8 £1,755.94, paid £3567.32 after Case manag hearing
    Barclays - £675 Prel7/8, LBA 21/8, offer received £300 MCOL 6/9 £998 - Paid £1,012 before going to Court


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