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    Default G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    Hi all, this is my 1st post, been reading like a mad man for a few weeks (and before i registered aswell)

    this month alone I have incurred over £200 in charges for unpaid DD's and unauthorised overdrafticon (they asked me to apply for one but I was refused last year so aint bothering lol)

    what worries me is... will they definitely close my account and if so i assume i should open a new one before I proceed

    I constantly miss DD's (not every month but regularly) does this count against me or does it not matter regardless?

    the reasons i ask this is I am a bit hesitant and therfore need reassuring before i commence... also the pain of moving all my DD's plus wages to another account

    I have drawn up all necessary letters before I commence (dont fail me now hard drive hehe) and am 100% ok with the procedures etc

    also I havent kept any letters with regards charges as I tend to just accept it and bin em... is this important?

    thanks in advance for any advice etc

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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    Hi Gibbo

    You are advised to get anther bank account just in case but I wouldn`t wait to take the first step until you`ve got another account cos they won`t do anything yet.

    It doesn`t matter how many DD`s have been missed. The point is that you`ve been unfairly penalised for them. Also you`ve probably incurred a lot of them because of previous penalty charges.

    You say you haven`t got letters. If you have a list of all the charges and what they were for that`s all you need. If not you need to send of a DPA request which you can fid in the Libraries section of the site.


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    that is my 1st step, which i shall be sending on friday (once I buy some more paper... school holidaysicon grrrrrr)

    I would say i have probably incurred a lot of charges in the 5 years with the bank and it would be a nice little windfall i guess. will open a new account tomorrow and then start the ball rolling. I only have a crappy electron card anyway as I didnt pass their credit score for a switch. annoying considering I have approx 2k per month going into the account


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    Hi G1bbo deffo open a parachute accounticon -in your own time like sparklydayz says, they wouldn't do it straight away, and quite unlikely anyway. If they do they would need to give you 30 days notice. Further to that if you send in a SARicon the account would be in "dispute" and I think that means they couldn't close it anyway - but could be corrected on that.

    Moving your DD's at worst case scenario wouldn't take that long.

    Its your cash - not thiers! Please ask if you need anything as it gets a bit sleepy in the woolwich forum - there aint that many of us!

    Good luck.


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    the funny thing is I am totally against Barclaysicon (overcharged me a few years ago and messed my account around something chronic) if I had known just how much of the woolwich is now Barclays i would have shifted a while back.... SARicon going off on Friday for definite, parachute accounticon sorted anyway, forgot I have a Nationwideicon current account already that i havent used for last 2 years


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    what address do i send my SARicon to? have all letters ready to go now and outlook ready for my dates to be set

    also am a bit worried with all these stays etc, could i have missed the boat on this one (story of my life tbh).

    ty in advance


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    Hiya

    You should post all letters recorded delivery to your local (or nearest) branch.

    You haven't missed the boat, they are still making the charges, and they are still unlawful.

    The stay of execution that you may have been reading about is just a delaying tactic. In all the cases I have read about it is simply that the bank have asked the judge to await the outcome of another case, or series of cases. The judge will agree with that, but there is no reason why you can't request the judge to change the decision. No other case is relevant to what you will be claiming since it is a fairly straight forward claim.

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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    SARicon sent today recorded delivery to local branch

    the buggers really messed my account about this month, checked balance online on the 1st.... -£100... thats ok cos all DD's paid, then i got a letter yesterday from my mortgageicon company saying it wasnt paid, checked online and the sly gits had not paid it, took their charges, paid the rest of my dd's and bounced the mortgageicon, so I got another letter today £35 charges again, plus 20 for missisng my mortgage payment and now a 1 month default on mrtgage as I aint got the funds!!!!

    am well pi$$ed off with them!!!


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    had the letter regarding my complaint etc etc and that they are dealing with it as a matter of importance blah blah... just waiting on the statement of charges now

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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
    prelim sent 06/10/2006 for £979.79
    LBA sent 20/10/06
    3/11/06 offer recieved £485 - LBA deadline also
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    didnt send £10 so resending on payday
    _________________________ ________


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    well just got my list of charges back, only had account 3 years and it totals £979.95 . thats less than I thought but still nearly a grand they have fleeced from me.

    quick question, on the letter I got with the list of charges there is a contact number should I wish to discuss further... is it worth ringing or just fire of prelim letter?

    I am fully prepared to go all the way but I wonder if their is any negotiating to be had in the initial phases?

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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
    prelim sent 06/10/2006 for £979.79
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    3/11/06 offer recieved £485 - LBA deadline also
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    didnt send £10 so resending on payday
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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    dont ring them ! experiance shows they only offer between 20% - 50% of total your claiming ! follow how the rest of us have done it try and keep all correspondance in writing thats your proof in case it would ever go to court its the tried and trusted way! send your prelim giving them 14 days followed by lbaicon giving them 14 days then file your MCOL ! all letters can be found in the templates !


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    yeah i already have all the letters etc filled in anyway, was just waiting on the actual amount they had took off me lol

    will stick to the tried and tested then


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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
    prelim sent 06/10/2006 for £979.79
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    3/11/06 offer recieved £485 - LBA deadline also
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    S.A.R sent 05/10/06
    didnt send £10 so resending on payday
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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    good luck !


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    prelim sent on 06/10/06 requesting charges of £979.79 be refunded... 14 days have started

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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    14 AND COUNTING g1bbo !


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    letter received from woolwich with regards my complaint saying they hope to have it resolved by 6th November.... nooooooooope 14 days from the 6/10/06 = 20/10/06

    Guess I should get my lbaicon printed ready :P

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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
    prelim sent 06/10/2006 for £979.79
    LBA sent 20/10/06
    3/11/06 offer recieved £485 - LBA deadline also
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    S.A.R sent 05/10/06
    didnt send £10 so resending on payday
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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    thats it g1bbo you dictate the timetable here not the woolwich !


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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    Hey G1 - you are 2 days ahead of me!

    Im sending my lbaicon on the 18th.

    I intially have been sending the letters to woolwich head office at Bexley Heath- and yesterday recived a letter say that *due to the nature of my concerns, my complaint has been escalated to Barlcays head office customer relation team*.

    I reckon they are buying time - so be prepared as this may happen to you aswell - whatever happens, still send the LBA out on the set date - that gives them a final 14 days before any mroe aciton from yourself.

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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    no probs, got another 35 to add to it from this month aswell so takes it to over a grand.... lubbly jubbly if it ever gets sorted

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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
    prelim sent 06/10/2006 for £979.79
    LBA sent 20/10/06
    3/11/06 offer recieved £485 - LBA deadline also
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    didnt send £10 so resending on payday
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    Default Re: G1BB0 v Woolwich advice needed before I pursue

    Letter receieved from Woolwich complaint has been escalated to Head Office Customer Relations Unit

    Barclaysicon
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    Floor 10
    1 Churchill place
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    E14 5HP

    I guess this is where my lbaicon goes on Friday then

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    S.A.R sent to Woolwich 12/09/06
    list of charges received 05/10/06 total £979.79
    prelim sent 06/10/2006 for £979.79
    LBA sent 20/10/06
    3/11/06 offer recieved £485 - LBA deadline also
    _________________________ ________

    Capital One
    S.A.R sent 05/10/06
    didnt send £10 so resending on payday
    _________________________ ________



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