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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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I have an outstanding complaint with RBS about my charges, which was stayed pending the Supreme Court case. Unfortunately, being an idiot, I've chucked out a load of correspondence from the past few years in which RBS represent their charges as being proportionate to the amount it cost them in administrative fees. I do have a letter from them after the court case in which they state that "We do not believe that there is any other legal basis on which the level of these charges can be challenged", and also that "the outcome of the legal proceedings confirms our position".

This is clearly contradictory to the third sentence of the judgement: " It is therefore appropriate to spell out at the outset that the Court does not have the task of deciding whether the system of charging personal current account customers adopted by United Kingdom banks is fair.”

 

I have searched both here and elsewhere for a copy of the older RBS terms and conditions, which represent the charges as being to cover their costs, but I've not had any luck. Does anyone here happen to have a copy they could PM or email me? Or would bluffing them by quoting the letter I have, and implying I have T&C's or correspondence in which they state their charges are to cover costs, have a chance of success?

 

Any advice gratefully received :)

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Don't bother to bluff. It won't get you anywhere.

 

You have probably binned the only evidence which will help you.

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£10 and a Dsar request might uncover the letters they previously sent you.

It does seem that bank charges are alot harder to reclaim now though and it is more a case of not paying and waiting for them to take you to court rather than risk been the claimant and having the burden of proof on you.

In the meantime your credit rating gets trashed so you have to think long and hard wether this is worthwhile however unfair.

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