Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


An excellent guide for the layperson in how to use the County Court - a must if you are intending to start a claim.

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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

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    Question A&L Will Hate Me

    Hi All

    I am new to the forum and spent 6 hours yesterday reading all the info on the site and then sat down to add up what A&L owe me, £6060 over the past year and a half because I run my own business and putting cheques from customers in the 4 day system as caused cash flow problems. This £6060 is just for dd, unpaid cheques, overdarft charge and the one I dont understand Cleared payment charge of £25 the day put on the account at the same time (midnight) as my cheques clear in the bank, its a big rip off and I intend to get every penny back even if I do have to take it to court, this country is ripping us all off and these forums and others like Pepipoo.com who help motorists with unlawfull speeding tickets, are what we need to get back at the greed of this country. I will be making a big donationicon to this site WHEN I win, not if I win. I also have an account with First Direct, HSBCicon & Barclays and a credit card with MBNAicon & Capital Oneicon, Im chasing them all and have sent out the Request information letter to these. Wish me luck

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    go for it mick but 18 months worth 6k blimey

    SETTLED CASES
    LTSB (CC) £20 21-8-06
    HSBC (CC) £600 19-10-06
    HSBC (Ac) No.1 £1900 25-10-06
    RBS (CC) £900 25-10-06
    Smile (Ac) £1300 17-11-06
    A&L (Ac) No.1 £400 23-11-06
    A&L (Mortgage ERC) £3900 4-12-06
    LTSB (Ac) £200 13-12-06
    A&L (Ac) No.2 £120 19-12-06
    HSBC (Ac) No.2 £650 29-12-06
    LTSB (Business) £1700 13-2-07
    RBS (Ac) £4500 + Default Removal 17-3-07
    Barclays (Bus) Warrant of Execution 10-3-07 not used yet
    ONGOING CASES
    Egg (CC) N1 Filed £1300 + Default Removal Judgment Order 9/1/07 In my Favour
    Barclays Business loan & 2 accs. S.A.R N1 filed Judgment in Default isued 15/2/07
    HSBC (CC) have failed to produce Credit Agreement
    TO DO CASES
    Egg (Loan)
    LTSB (Ac Ltd Company)
    LTSB (Loan)

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    Posted Prelim request for money today 23/08/06 with list of charges template.
    Waiting and counting everyday of the 14 days!!!!!

    Countrybake, they will not give me an overdrafticon on my account, this is because in their words " we do not offer overdrafts on your type of account" so I asked to change my account to an account I can have Overdraft on? No was the answer, now I know why! So that they can charge me £25 for each day I go overdrawn which when your self employed waiting for customers to send cheques is very difficult not to, its not like having a perminant job because you dont get paid on the same day each week or month. But will they listen, no not interested because they will lose the money they are ripping me off for going overdrawn, well Im a fighter for Justice and when I heard about this site I was pleased, I will win , I dont give up.


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    Just checked my account online and low and behold another £50 for 2 days overdrawn this month and £34 for a returned dd, yet it was put on last night at midnight and I had a cheque clear in the account at midnight!!!!!! RIP OFF A&L.
    Im getting angry now, upto £6144 now...........


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    Default Re: A&L Will Hate Me

    Mick are you doing this outside of small claims then?


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    Hi mickg23 and welcome

    I'm in the same boat as you - £8,300 in charges in the last 6 yearsicon. I have split my claim into two dates 2000-2003 and 2004-2006 as this site recommends. Claims for over £5k fall outside the fast track and if your case proceeded as far as a court hearing and you lost, you could end up having to pay the banks costs. YOU WON'T LOSE - but its a wise precaution, God knows they've had enough from you already.

    Put in your first claim and as soon as you receive your nice big cheque, start your second claim. I'm at lbaicon stage with first claim. Good luck

    CAPITAL ONE
    Data Protection Act sent 29.6.06 - Acknowledged 3.7.06
    Statements received 27.7.06
    Initial request sent 31.7.06
    LBA sent 14.8.06
    MCOL filed 16.10.06
    BARCLAYCARD
    Data Protection Act sent 6.7.06
    Preliminary request sent 31.7.06
    Offer received 9.8.06
    LBA sent 14.8.06 accepting offer only as part payment
    ALLIANCE & LEICESTER (over 5000 - split in 2)
    Claim 1
    Data Protection Act sent 6.7.06
    Statements received 9.8.06
    Preliminary request sent 14.8.06
    Request refused 17.8.06
    LBA sent 24.8.06
    MCOL filed 10.9.06
    PAID IN FULL 6.10.06
    Claim 2
    DPA sent 17.10.06
    IKEA
    DPA sent 6.7.06
    Statements received 9.8.06
    Preliminary request sent 14.8.06
    50% refund offered 20.8.06
    AQUA
    DPA sent 31.7.06

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    Hi there

    On the basis that you will need to open a parachute accounticon I can recommend Abbey National for their business account. OH and I also run a small business. Have a look at their business account. No charges for paying in cheques or standing orders etc and they offer an overdrafticon facility. We have been with them 2 years with no problems at all and have saved around £50 per month in charges since switching from ltsbicon. By this I mean service charges - paying in cheques etc not charges for exceeding overdraft. Don't get me wrong, if you were to exceed your overdraft facility I don't think Abbey National are any kinder to you in applying their "penalties" but it may be that if you have no service charges and an overdraft facility you may avoid any "penalties" altogether. Hope this helps and good luck with your claim.


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    Default Re: A&L Will Hate Me

    A&L may well hate you but it's not all good news you have to do a little work to get your money back. It's mostly fun though.

    It's a good point about the small claims procedure limit of £5k. You won't lose but it is a simpler and faster process than the full county courticon job.

    Think of a bank like a baby's nappy (Diaper for our collonial cousins). It needs to be changed frequently for exacly the same reason.


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    Once I added the s.69 interesticon at 8%, my claim was over the £5k limit, but all correspondence upto filing the claim showed the full amount (£6k+). When I filled out the N1 claim form, I split the claim so that it was below the £5k small claims limit, intending to claim the balance at a later date - but the A&L paid the ENTIRE amount I had originally claimed, not what the court claim was for.

    I don't know if that was an adminicon cockup or deliberate policy - but it would certainly seem to be worth bearing in mind.?

    A&L: Settled - £6,200
    HFC: Settled - £800
    Shell Visa: Settled - £250
    Egg: Settled - £700
    Mint: Settled - £1200
    RBS: Settled - £850

    The opionions in this post are guaranteed to conform to the laws of physics, but pretty much nothing else...

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    If it goes to me filing an N1 then I will split it, I wanted them to see what the total amount was, hopefully they will just settle up. Im enjoying this, cant wait to get my requested information back from Barclaysicon, HSBCicon & First Direct. I wonder if some of the staff from these banks are thinking what a rip off their employers are??????????????


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    Had a letter back yesterday from A&L in response to my request for my fees to be repaid, they say the usual that eveyone else has had from them that the OFT were refering to credit card fees and have not yet entered into discussions with the banks blah blah blah.

    Sending lbaicon today

    A&L Prelim Sent 21/08/06
    A&L Reply Received24/08/06
    A&L LBA Sent 27/08/06

    First Direct Consumer Credit Request sent 21/08/06
    First Direct Reply received 24/08/06 [ sending free copies of statements by courier, returned cheque]



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