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Standard letter and statements received
Statements prior to May 2004 on microfiche etc.
I don't think I started using my card until mid 2004 anyway so i'm just sending prelim from then onwards.
They say about microfiche statements 'are copied onto the icrofiche in date order and more than one customer statement may be held on an individual film of microfiche. These statements are not stored by reference to account number or customer name and are not "readily accessible" withing hte meaning od the DPA. These statements are therefore note retained in a relevant filing system etc etc......' They then go on to say that these can be obtained at a price of £3 per statement.
So if I request one from say Jun 2002, are they saying that they will have to manually read through ALL microfiches of statements for ALL customers for Jun 2002 until somebody manually picks mine out :?
In effect thats what they are saying, I know its horse droppings but thats what they want us to believe.
Funny how its not easy to find and locate so they say it doenst fall within the scope of the DPA but it doesnt cost much to sort the out if you pay. Oh did they say multiple statements are £10?
Glenn
Kick the shAbbey Habit
Where were you? Next time please
Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless
Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07 Barclaycard - Settled cheque received
Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07 Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07
GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty
MBNA - Settled in Full
GE Capital (1st National) Settled
Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07
MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here Glenn Vs MBNA
Funny somce companies are offering multile statements for £10.
Glenn
Kick the shAbbey Habit
Where were you? Next time please
Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless
Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07 Barclaycard - Settled cheque received
Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07 Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07
GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty
MBNA - Settled in Full
GE Capital (1st National) Settled
Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07
MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here Glenn Vs MBNA
I say bank it and send a letter saying you accept it but only in partial settlement of your claim, detailing the amount that still remains outstanding. maybe even just add that in to your lba.
they may have responded, but it certainly isnt an acceptable response to your claim.
was there no letter with it saying you have to return a slip agreeing that its in Full and final settlement of the claim? (usual practice with other banks).
Barclaycard are definitely proving awkward arent they!! :?
My prelim went yesterday and I expect a similar response.
No letter, nothing about my claim just a comp slip and a cheque - i'll get them scanned in later and remove all identifying marks and post them up here.
Letter received today dated 2nd Sept, Envelope franked 4th Sept and went through post office automated sorting machine 5th Sept.
Letter is the usual we thing they are fair, but goodwill gesture etc offer of difference between charge and £12 to be refunded by cheque sent under seperate cover.
Seems they are sending cheques out with the letter posted a day later so that you bank the cheque first.
The letter that arrived the day after the cheque did !
I have twigged why this is, they posted the letter to my old address that I moved from 3 months ago - not the address they sent my statements to , not the address they sent the cheque to - incompetence at it's worst.
I have received this letter, any ideas on a reply?
Was your account opened prior to May 2004 ? If so I would push for the statements and stress that they must be filed in some indexed system otherwise when you request one, they will have to trawl through hundreds of thousands of customers statements for that month until they pick yours out, all for a measly £3 - I don't think so.
The response they're getting !
Martynh99
My New Address
Tracy Burgess
Customer Relationship Manager
Barclaycard
PO Box 599
Manchester
M60 3NF
6th Sept 2006 (posted 7th Sept 2006)
ACCOUNT NUMBER: XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX
Your ref; XXXXXXXX
Dear Tracy,
Thank you for your letter dated 2nd September 2006, which I received today.
You raised several points in your letter which need to be addressed. You claim that your charges are both fair and transparent. I claim that they are excessive and unlawful, and as you have not provided me with any justification, or Breakdown of costs, for the level of your charges I find no reason to believe your claim that they are fair. If you care to furnish me with the breakdown of the £12 charge that you have retained per charge is the true costs incurred I would take this into consideration.
You inform me that Barclaycard disagree with my legal argument. If that is Barclaycards opinion then I can only assume that you will be happy to take this case to the courts and let a judge decide which of us is correct.
You state that the OFT recommended a fee of £12.00. This is incorrect, I suggest that you study the report in more detail,
Below is an extract from an OFT Press Release reference number 68/06 dated 5th April 2006: "Where credit card default charges are set at more than £12, the OFT will presume that they are unfair, and is likely to challenge the charge unless there are limited, exceptional business factors in play. A default charge is not fair simply because it is below £12."
The press release also goes on to say: “A default charge should only be used to recover certain limited administrative costs.”
Perhaps you will study the press release and maybe take advice from your legal department. The press release is available online at Current credit card default charges unfair
You state that I may ultimately become eligible to refer to the Financial Ombudsman Service This is completely irrelevant as this is a legal matter which I believe will be heard in the small claims court, as the amount I am claiming is well under the £5000.00 threshold for that track. Again, your legal department will be able to advise you on this. You have offered a sum of £48.00 as a goodwill gesture. As the cheque arrived in the post along with a compliment slip (photocopy enclosed with this letter) prior to this letter arriving, I had assumed that this was an interim payment on account of the full claim of £149.22 and have since banked the cheque. I have therefore deducted the £48 from the original claim leaving a balance of £129.22
Breach of Data Protection Act
I also believe that in your letter of 2nd September 2006 you have committed a breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 which is outlined below. 22nd November 2005 I wrote to yourselves closing the Credit Card Account. 8th June 2006 I moved house from <old Address> to my current address. As I had previously closed this account, I did not inform Barclaycard of this change of address. 23rd August 2006 I wrote to Barclaycard requesting details of charges made on my account under a Data Protection Request. 30th August 2006 I received the statements in the post at my new address. 30th August 2006 I submitted my claim for repayment of charges. 5th Sept 2006 I received a cheque for £48 and a compliment slip to my new address. 6th Sept 2006 I came into receipt of a letter dated 2nd September 2006 that you had sent to my old address. This letter contains private and sensitive information in the form of my card number and financial dealings with Barclaycard.
All correspondence from myself to Barclaycard in relation to this claim has clearly displayed my current address.
This letter is my letter before action that was detailed in my original claim dated the 30th August 2006. You now have 14 days to respond otherwise I will commence proceedings in the Small Claims Court against Barclaycard.
I think that letter is superb MartynH - and if you don't mind I'll borrow chunks of it for mine (especially the bits relating to the OFT and £12)?
Morris v Halifax
Data Protection Act letter sent 20/6
Charge deducted from account 27/6
6 yrs statements received 25/8
Prelim sent 30/8 (£1014 charges + £156.11 interest).
Std reply & complaints leaflet received 5/9
Offer received £70 9/9
LBA sent 12/9
No reply to LBA - MCOL requested 26/9
Offer received 26/9 - £218.
MCOL issued 26/9, acknowledged 29/9
Offer 29/9 - full amount ex. o/draft interest
Accepted as partial
Credited to account 12/10
AQ sent for rest Morris1 v Barclaycard
Prelim letter sent 31/8 (£60 charges + interest).
Standard reply 9/9
Offer 12/9 - full amount!! Morris 2 v Barclaycard (Mrsbass!):
Data Protection Act letter sent 7/9
Standard reply received 19/9 inc statements 5/04 to date and microfiche bilge.
Prelim 20/9 £100+interest actual, +same estimated.
LBA 3/10
Partial offer £48 6/10
Received a letter today from BC(scan below) - what a bunch of muppets.
It's a standard letter supposedly referring to points in my letter which I didn't even make. It then fails to mention the 2 important points I do make like the OFT press release and the Data Protection Breach.
Couldn't resist it (and I know I shouldn't have) but I rang her up. Made the point I though this was a standard letter and that the points I raised haven't been addressed and they've addressed some that I never made.
Obviously gets a lot of these calls as she just said they'd get a revised response out to me today. Didn't ask what had been missed or anything. Will now follow this up with a fax and send that recorded delivery too.