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    Default Loz vs NatWest ** WON **

    Oh boy, where to start with this one..?
    Firstly, I sent my DPA request three weeks ago but stupidly forgot about recorded mail. I hope I haven't wasted my time there

    I had my Natwesticon account from student days, and they allowed me a £2k overdrafticon facility. They offered me a graduate loan, and even though I was temping I was confident that a proper job was forthcoming and took a £5k loan. With hindsight this was foolish, and they should not have allowed this given my work situation, but I guess I shouldn't have taken it either.

    Within a few months I was no longer getting decent hours from the agency, my account terms changed from graduate to current, the loan was gone to pay the bills, and I was being charged by NatWest, making the problem worse. A couple of weeks on the trot they charged me far more than my pay packet, meaning I could not even afford to fill the car up to get to work or buy a can of beans to live on. I got my pay put into another account, I argued with NatWest and pretty much walked away from the bank/loan accounts. I didn't know what else to do. In February 2004 they notified me of their intention to file a default; I called and asked them to help me (ha!) and it seems that they went as far as (randomly) refunding some charges, but obviously it was far too late. They notified me again in April 2004 that they would file a default, and eventually I persuaded them to accept £100 per month into the current account.

    I have kept this up ever since, and have received zero correspondence from NatWest, not even statements. Last month I got a mini-statement on the current account and found I am being charged £28 per month of the £100 I pay in, reasons unclear at this stage. I have no idea as yet what the status of the loan account is.

    What I want to know is, whether I get a response to my DPA request or not, am I not entitled to the statements for the past 2½ years FOCicon anyway? I guess I should give them a call on both subjects...

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Nearly forgot..

    Can I claim for a "default notice fee" of £30? They might argue whether I would have incurred these anyway, regardless of their penalty charges, but I want every penny I can have from these [insert profanity here].

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    What I want to know is, whether I get a response to my Data Protection Act request or not, am I not entitled to the statements for the past 2½ years FOCicon anyway?
    Anyone? Staffmember?

    An interesting sidenote, I checked my credit record online and could not see any mention of Natwesticon's name anywhere on it - despite their threats to file a default.

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    yes you can claim the default fee

    CHRIS WATKINS

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Aye I realised.. bit of a blonde moment there *slaps head*

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    lol

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Sorry for not responding earlier and yes chris is right. Good Luck


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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Thanks, apologies if i sounded like I expected you to put the world to rights!

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    I hate Alliance + Leicester
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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Quick update - they obviously received my request since the first batch of statements arrived today, July 2000 to October 2002. (I already have these, which is beside the point)

    Looking forward to the rest of them so the fun can begin!

    Loz (also expecting details of some manual intervention, well they did threaten to default me...)

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    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Second (and presumably final) batch of statements received, time to do some sums... Intrigued about the charges I've had since I last received a statement; none at all from 31/3/04 to 31/5/05, but £28 every month since then. No idea what that's all about, since as stated above I have had no correspondence with Natwesticon during that period.

    One question: several entries are marked "Automated Credit / Loz / MBA" - anyone know what MBA means?

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    I hate Alliance + Leicester
    BT: No longer a customer
    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
    NatWest: £1581-71 refunded 16/12/06; personal loan CCA agreement not provided

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    "loz MBA" are not charges may be worth a visit to the branch to ask, but the £28 IS as that is unarranged borrowing


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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Sending prelim request today:

    "Dear Natwesticon,
    Please refund my £1183. That is all.
    Loz."

    Or words to that effect.

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    good luck Loz, be prepared for all the messing about and bog off letters and time wasting you will get from Natwesticon and then Cobbetts

    CHRIS WATKINS

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    OK 14 days was up last week and I've had no reply. Am debating whether to send lbaicon immediately (so as to negate their time wasting as much as possible) or wait another week so I can add another £28 which I expect to be charged on 30/9/06, anyone any thoughts?

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    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
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    Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Over the weekend I got the standard reply from Stuart Higley - "there is little I can add constructively to my last letter" etc etc - though this is the first response I have had from them.

    MCOL here I come! Anyone any advice at this stage?
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    BT: No longer a customer
    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Hi,
    As there is a deal of controversy about the amount of text you can put on the MCOL form, ( POCicon ), I would recommend you going down the N1 route, Deal with your local CC.
    Does anyone agree ? or is this just " Bull ".


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    Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Filled out MCOL today, a grand total of £1405-71 including the 8% interest. That will clear my outstanding overdrafticon nicely, and probably my HSBCicon overdraft too. I just hope they don't drag it out... :-/

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    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
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    Thumbs down Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Quel surprise, they filed a defence at the last minute...
    I wonder how long they can drag this out for? Gits.

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    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
    NatWest: £1581-71 refunded 16/12/06; personal loan CCA agreement not provided

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    Did you get a part 18icon request with the defence?

    Advice given is either my experience or my opinion and is given without liability. If in doubt, consult a qualified professional.
    If you PM me for advice I will only reply in your own thread

    Never under estimate your ability. I won over £17,000!
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    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...r-NatWest.html

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    Default Re: Loz vs NatWest

    That will probably arrive in the post tomorrow - I just checked MCOL to see if I could apply for a default judgement (28 days is up today) and saw a defence has been filed..

    I hate Alliance + Leicester
    BT: No longer a customer
    HSBC: £1222 refunded 28/5/06; Second claim of £737-24 refunded 9/11/06; PPI + interest on personal loan refunded 27/7/08
    MBNA: £100 refunded on first claim of £112; £208 refunded on second claim for £108 24/9/07; PPI £256-28 refunded 8/4/08
    NatWest: £1581-71 refunded 16/12/06; personal loan CCA agreement not provided


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