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    Default Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    We all need to unite and a uk wide protest in london in front of the tv crew how disabled people are being treated this esa [problem] is a joke.

    we just need people to have courage and who want to fight for their rights because until we fight for our rights we will be treated like animals remember the election is months away.

    Gordon Brown needs to open the other eye that is closed and see reality ironically he has a disability himself one eye that he cannot see with perhaps he needs to be reminded the difference of being poor and being disabled.

    WE MUST FIGHT people it's got to be done. WE ARE ALL BEING TOLD that WE ARE LIARS and we don't have disabilities.

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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    Hi, good start to a good idea!
    I would like to see us mobilise in some way. As you say, there is an election coming up and the near future would give us a better chance of visibility. But I don't know how we can do it...
    ... so count me in

    Up the revolution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelcou View Post
    Hi, good start to a good idea!
    I would like to see us mobilise in some way. As you say, there is an election coming up and the near future would give us a better chance of visibility. But I don't know how we can do it...
    ... so count me in

    Up the revolution!

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    Thanks your on my list Kelcou,

    I think a good idea is to start with atos and get as mud as we can i would like to start a name and shame approach but im not shure if this site will allow us to do this.

    and i think making formal complaints to atos and dwp and your MP maybe.

    the direct approach would be to get a ralley at westminister and no 10.

    anyone interested in any of the ideas please post your comments.8-)

    or any other ideas welcome.

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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    Well I have my MP and MSP coming to see us tomorrow in regards to our son's DLA claim that was refused due to an ESA medical, so I will let everyone know how we get on.


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    It was nice to see this major problem slowly dribbling into mainstream news. I do think we need to be more vocal.
    Any of you internet friendly ATOS faileds fancy starting a Facebook page???
    Rae.


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    OK, update on my thread about my son.

    MSP got the Tribunals rumbled up and we now have a date for April.

    MP on the other hand has written straight to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and has asked why the evidence of one of the country's most Eminent Dermatologists has been ignored!!!

    More info to come when I get it

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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

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    OK, update on my thread about my son.

    MSP got the Tribunals rumbled up and we now have a date for April.

    MP on the other hand has written straight to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and has asked why the evidence of one of the country's most Eminent Dermatologists has been ignored!!!

    More info to come when I get it

    Maz
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    Hope it goes well (good result)
    Keep it coming guys and gals, we need as much as we can gain about why professionals are being ignored.....:idea:

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    more on the facebook could be another idea:idea:

    I urge us to bomberd the Rt Hon Yvette Cooper MP who is Secretary of State for Work and Pensions at the DWP. with emails, letters and the like.

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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    Count me in for FB as Im a bit of an addict LOL!!!

    I also urge folks to involve their MPs or MSP's or both. When they start to get all the requests for help and they find they cant do other constituency work done for helping with ESA and DLA appeals, they may realise that something is way wrong.

    Here is Rt Hon Yvette's address

    Rt Hon Yvette Cooper MP
    Secretary of State for Work and Pensions
    Department of Work and Pensions
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    This is the exact address from the top of the letter my MP sent to her.


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    i for one will definately write to her and say what i think about atos medicals,i will also sign any petition about atos medicals,


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    I am very disappointed at the complete lack of interest this thread has generated.
    OK, I'll admit a little personal bias.
    For those fortunate enough to retain their health let me tell you how things pan out for the disabled and seriously ill in this country today.
    You have two choices of benefit. Employment Support Allowance or Job Seekers Allowance. Thats it. If you fail to get fifteen points on ESA you HAVE to go for JSA or get nothing. Regardless of your actual health.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for malingerers being weeded out of the system but this is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
    In my own case, I have severe COPD. Even the DWP in their A to Z of medical conditions agree I only have a 50/50 chance of surviving for 5 years. I won't bore you with the symptoms but lets just say I'm happy not to have to face being an OAP
    And yet I failed my ATOS assesment and then my Tribunal - the 'medical expert' had no knowledge of COPD.
    I don't really care about my case, but I do care deeply about the many people put in my position.
    We may be disabled. We may be seriously ill. But we DO need to seriously think about doing something. Neither main political party is going to change the status quo. We have to act somehow and find a method of coming together and acting in unison.
    Somehow, guys an gals, we have to create a revolution..
    Rae. x


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    Whats needed is a dedicated website, an action group slant, a slogan i.e. 'ATOS ADIOS', where folk can register there experiences and dissatifaction
    at ATOS. This reminds me of the fosicon who get 500 for each enquiry they look into, sod the result. If I put in a complaint against Cap. One, Cap. One pays the FOS 500.


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelcou View Post
    I am very disappointed at the complete lack of interest this thread has generated. I AGREE THERE RAE!
    OK, I'll admit a little personal bias.
    For those fortunate enough to retain their health let me tell you how things pan out for the disabled and seriously ill in this country today.
    You have two choices of benefit. Employment Support Allowance or Job Seekers Allowance. SUCKS Thats it. If you fail to get fifteen points on ESA you HAVE to go for JSA or get nothing. Regardless of your actual health.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for malingerers being weeded out of the system but this is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
    In my own case, I have severe COPD. Even the DWP in their A to Z of medical conditions agree I only have a 50/50 chance of surviving for 5 years. I won't bore you with the symptoms but lets just say I'm happy not to have to face being an OAP
    And yet I failed my ATOS assesment and then my Tribunal - the 'medical expert' had no knowledge of COPD.
    I don't really care about my case, but I do care deeply about the many people put in my position. KEEP YOUR CHIN UP I KNOWS IT"S HARD DONT LET THE BUGGERS GET YOU DOWN.
    We may be disabled. We may be seriously ill. But we DO need to seriously think about doing something. Neither main political party is going to change the status quo. We have to act somehow and find a method of coming together and acting in unison.
    Somehow, guys an gals, we have to create a revolution..
    Rae. x
    Rae,
    I had a feeling when starting this thead it would lack interest but worth a try.......
    I myself is suprised of the lack of fight of the british people, it's the same on anything that happens in his country wether it be this (ATOS) petrol, car tax, ect, i feel that people don't care what a state this country is in. i think that disabled people get a raw deal because they haven't the energy to fight. is it worth bombarding the national papers or similar into looking a what they are doing to us.

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    Count me in for the revolution, if you take thick people. I hadn't realised where this thread was until LIBRO put it on the benefits forum just now .

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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

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    Count me in for the revolution, if you take thick people LOL. WE TAKE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO FIGHT.I hadn't realised where this thread was until LIBRO put it on the benefits forum just now .

    HB
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    Count me in,
    need some ideas if you would or could. lol

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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Like-Im-Being-Ripped-Off View Post
    We all need to unite and a uk wide protest in london in front of the tv crew how disabled people are being treated this esa [problem] is a joke.

    we just need people to have courage and who want to fight for their rights because until we fight for our rights we will be treated like animals remember the election is months away.

    Gordon Brown needs to open the other eye that is closed and see reality ironically he has a disability himself one eye that he cannot see with perhaps he needs to be reminded the difference of being poor and being disabled.

    WE MUST FIGHT people it's got to be done. WE ARE ALL BEING TOLD that WE ARE LIARS and we don't have disabilities.

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    Hello everyone, New here 'so please be gentle with me'

    I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH YOU LBRO!

    I am in the middle of the DWP/ATOS debarcle....

    I have been in touch with ATOS and my MP?.... for all the good it's done...and it's APPEAL HERE I COME!....
    definately want to join your campaign...

    WE NEED TO BE HEARD!!!

    THINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED!!!

    I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!

    think the government are publishing something about the ESA this week so it's going to be in/on the news?...

    I'll go to London to protest! anyone else going???

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    I have a atos medical assesment this Wednesday so count me in because even if i do win in here to stand up for the less fortunate


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    I have a atos medical assesment this Wednesday
    ""GOOD LUCK""!!!................ ......


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    Default Re: Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

    im sure you can get loads of support and ideas on the benefits and work forum too


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    Hello everyone, New here 'so please be gentle with me'

    I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH YOU LBRO!

    I am in the middle of the DWP/ATOS debarcle....

    I have been in touch with ATOS and my MP?.... for all the good it's done...and it's APPEAL HERE I COME!....
    definately want to join your campaign...

    WE NEED TO BE HEARD!!!

    THINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED!!!

    I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!

    think the government are publishing something about the ESA this week so it's going to be in/on the news?...

    I'll go to London to protest! anyone else going???

    X

    COUNTMEIN

    Keep us posted on any news.
    Pompeyfaith
    Good luck wed.

    Calling all who has been treated like a garbage by the DWP and ATOS
    I think what might be a idea to is name and shame the so called medical professionals and what area there in. ie Dr let me hurt you as hard as we can. and were he or she is working, say at the atos office BRIGHTON or TELFORD you get the idea.:grin:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pompeyfaith View Post
    im sure you can get loads of support and ideas on the benefits and work forum too
    it's a paying site not alot have people have the money for that sorry.
    PF.
    That's not really any help in this issue im afraid.
    if you have any other ideas let us know.

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