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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Hi everyone,

 

My elderly father parked in Sainsbury's in the disabled bay but made the honest mistake (he's old and forgets things!) of not displaying his blue badge.

 

Now, my brother sent a letter in with copies of the blue badge but euro car parks have demanded my dad still pays.

 

My dad has told me to deal with it (after my brother's success) and I've done some research and read up on the forum.

 

I understand the main advice is not to get in touch with them. Well, we have but do I have a case for not paying? I think most reasonable people would say that it was a honest mistake but, after presenting all facts, my father did have the permission to park in the bay - he just made a mistake - we are all human after all.

 

Should I ignore any further letters or should I pay the £50 fine?

 

Regards,

 

Gurjit.

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there is no FINE its a [problem] invoice

 

Blue Badges in the first place have no legal standing on private property

 

IGNORE the [problematic]

 

if you really want to do anything write a stinking letter to the CEO of Sainsburys about your disgust that they allow the [problem] in their carparks, and that you and your family will take their £250 etc shopping elsewhere, reminding them that the BLUE BADGE has no LEGAL status on private property,

 

there is another thread on the forum regarding lots of supermarkets in breach of the DDA and Blue badges, and being picked up by all the national newspapers

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there is no FINE its a [problem] invoice

 

Blue Badges in the first place have no legal standing on private property

 

Blue badges will stop you from getting clamped or towed away.

 

But the bays are just graffitti on the ground.

 

As advised ignore the [problem] fine.

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Gurjit: IGNORE all the chain mail that comes to the door but as it will be addressed to your dad then perhaps you can find on here which debt collection and solicitors(or those pretending to be) so you can tell him in advance what he will get in case he worries about the big words and red ink!

 

But dont waste a stamp on them.

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Here is the Euro letterchain and the letters you need to ignore:click here

 

This is exactly the kind of situation which makes me detest the supermarkets and the cahoots they're in with the parking scamsters. They love to go about making things nice and rosy for customers, but it's the elderly driver who forgets to display a badge (not that they're under any obligation to) who is the number one victim in these setups. Age Concern should be getting involved - a press release on a quiet news day would be ideal.

 

I would write and express my disgust to Sainsburys. Ignore the shameless Euro Car Parks.

 

If car parks are private property why can you be charged by the police for contravening parts of the road traffic act etc?

 

 

A road is defined as follows under Section 192(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1

as follows:

 

"Any Highway and any other road to which the public has access, and includes bridges over which a road passes.."

 

Doesn't include issues such as disabled bays I believe. Blue badges don't apply on private land and they say that in the accompanying information.

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Thanks guys,

 

My dad was really stressed about this (he can't take much pressure nowadays) so it's nice to know a law abiding citizen isn't going to get stung.

 

However, I do feel for all those that weren't so lucky as me to come across this great forum that are paying out on a daily basis.

 

I'm definitely going to write to Sainsbury's MD and tell him what I think. It really is poor that they allow this sort of thing.

 

Warm regards,

 

Gurjit.

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However, I do feel for all those that weren't so lucky as me to come across this great forum that are paying out on a daily basis.

 

I'm definitely going to write to Sainsbury's MD and tell him what I think. It really is poor that they allow this sort of thing.

 

Warm regards,

 

Gurjit.

Good on you.

 

Don't forget to spread the word to all your mates and family.

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