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Now if you look carefully you will note the cost of the PPI and the intrest charged for the ppi total misssold have never ever managed to claim even when they were told I was unemployed have been in payment plans with this company for a number of years.
this shows the intrest on ppi insurance at £461.35
it also shows the amount of ppi as Insurance Principal £1684.85
giving total of £2146.20
and as this was missold I wish to claim back to hopefuly wipe out any balance owed now the question I have is would I compound the total figure at the contractral rate of 10.44% from date loan started till now or would i run compound at contractral rate till date loan should of finished and then do a simple calculation between that date and today.
the reason I am asking is the loan as been taken over by Abbey/santander and I got a phone call from them on the 4th of january saying they would send out income and expenditure form yes I had missed a payment on 27th december for £50 they have in the past allowed me to reduce when no work forthcoming Im a supply teacher and work has been very patchy last couple of years. they also said the debt might be sold on as was 16 months behind. the guy on the phone obviously lied as recived letter from westcot this morning mind you he also said that the debt could well be wiped out with payment protection cash owed and intrest added.
final demand notice sent by mistake would of expected one of these after not making payment end of december (this is one from end of oct sent in error)
and finally the letter recived from wescot so i presume abbey are trying to offload this did mention in november when made £50 payment I was looking to reclaim ppi and intrest so i wonder if this is why.
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NEVER EVER - act on a private message asking you to visit another website, make contact 'off list' or by telephone
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7. Thinking of a Full & Final Settlement?Read Here
my views are my own...seek legal advice if ness
NEVER EVER - act on a private message asking you to visit another website, make contact 'off list' or by telephone
- alert the siteteam IMMEDIATELY by hitting the black warning triangle on any message - Particularly if this results in a request to pay a fee to help you.
rather than hittting to be my friend - hit the star
Re: reclaiming single premium ppi missold A and l help please asap
How did Wescott orginally introduce themselves to you ?
They say in their letter above they are responding to a letter you sent to them.. what was the exchange of letters in respect of that.
As dx has already advised you need to write to Wescott advising that having discovered you were mis sold a PPI product that this account is now in dispute until it has been resolved.
What you need to do now is get yourself organised in order to reclaim the PPI.
You have a copy of the agreement and it was an up front premium with the interest calculated then added to the loan.
It is my understanding that you would require the PPI sum to be removed and then you would reclaim interest at what ever rate be it contractural or simple from the payments you have already made.
You need to write to the company/bank that you took the loan out with, in the first instance.
Letter to Wescott
Dear Sirs,
Account Number.
Account in Dispute
I am in receipt of your letter dated 5th January 2010.
I have just discovered that there is a mis sold payment protection insurance added to this account and am in the process of making an official complaint to the original creditor.
As there is now a genuine and valid dispute which has yet to be resolved, you will be in breach of OFT guidelines should you continue to pursue for payment.
Please note, that I require all communication between us to be in writing. This is in order to protect myself should this proceed to litigation. I will not enter into any discussions about my personal finances over the telephone, therefore any further attempts to contact me in that manner will be considered harrassment and reported as such to the regulatory bodies.
To the Bank who sold you the loan/PPI. This is just a suggestion. You need to tailor the letter to your own circumstances. Please read it carefully and amend where necessary. Thanks to Shakespeare62 for the original draft.
Dear Sirs,
Account No:
Dear Sir / Madam
OFFICIAL COMPLAINT
Re: Request for return of Payment Protection Insurance premium and contractual interest.
On the DATE OF LOAN I took out an unsecured loan with your company/bank. But now believe that I was mis-sold this policy for the following reasons:
Give your reason for mis selling below:
Were you self employed
Did you have a pre existing medical condition
Were you advised about exclusions (you say they wouldnt allow you to claim for redundancy ? - Why was this)
Do any of the following apply to your circumstances.. delete/amend those that do not apply
I was not given full information on what the policy would and would not cover for example that the loan only covered the first five years of the loan term.
I am concerned the sales person that sold me the policy had no financial background and the policy was not sold in my best interests.
I was not advised that I could obtain insurance elsewhere to cover myself for this new commitment to your bank or shown any comparisons for other products in the industry – which may have been more competitive or better suited than your own. This latter concern has now been the subject of an enquiry by the Competition Commissioners Office who were especially critical of PPI
It was not explained to me that the policy premium would be paid upfront as a single premium and would be added to my debt and attract interest from the outset. I believe you should have disclosed to me that the single premium policy, did not give a pro-rata refund in event of early settlement.
I was not told that there were other options than a single premium policy, i.e. that I could take a “pay monthly one”.
No attempt was made to ascertain if the product provided was fit for purpose, suitable for my needs or if indeed at all. No inquiry was made as whether I had pre-existing insurance for accident, illness or unemployment. I was not given full information on what the policy would and would not cover, I was not given a copy of the insurance policy nor were any rights to cancel explained. I believe you manifestly failed in your fiduciary responsibilities, and your duty of care.
With reference to recent OFT and FSA investigations regarding the mis-selling of PPI by finance companies, I now believe that I was gravely misled when you mis-sold me this expensive insurance policy, which I did not want and did not need and for the reasons given above, totally unsuitable.
I believe you should have made it clear to me that the policy generated large profits for you. You failed to do this. I believe that you have also therefore failed in your duty of disclosure. Your failure to disclose is misrepresentation at common law.
Your concealment of the act of mis-selling has prevented me from asserting my right until now. I believe that there are strong grounds for action against you under common law, statute and consumer regulations.
The original insurance premium of £XXXXX plus interest of £XXXXX making a total of £XXXXXwhich was then added to the loan amount on the DATE OF LOAN
If this were to proceed to litigation, Statutory 8% interest (S69 of the county court Act) allowed by the Courts would also be payable.
I am writing to ask you to refund the premium paid together with interest equal to your APR at the time under the accepted principle of mutuality and reciprocity. I would also like to claim statutory compensation in view of the fact that I have been deprived of the cash over that period.
Financial Ombudsman Service
Please now investigate my complaint within the eight weeks allowed to you. If I do not receive a favourable response from you I will consider pursuing this claim through the Financial Ombudsman.
May I bring to your attention that fos rules which are backed by the Consumer Credit Act 2006 require a business to acknowledge in writing a complaint by the end of the next working day.
To quote from the page 5 of the Financial Ombudsman Service rules (see link below)
"When handling complaints, your business should:
■ send the consumer a prompt written acknowledgment
(if you have not been able to resolve the complaint on the
spot, or by the end of the next working day);
It is requested you treat this as a formal complaint and provide me with a copy of your Complaints procedure.
Yours faithfully
1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy -HERE
2: Take back control of your finances -Debt Diaries
3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors?Read Here
When the Liberals and Conservatives were in opposition, they both agreed that banks should pay back high bank charges to customers. Nothing seems to have happened since they came into power as a coalition. PPI Insurance has been sorted. Now they should turn their attention to bank charges and help customers get exorbitant charges refunded.
Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.
PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE
a sort of fire-fighting role here. Hate HFC & their past compulsory PPI ethos
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Re: reclaiming single premium ppi missold A and l help please asap
and if you've not guessed, they have NO legal right to any I/0 forms from you.
your financial affairs are NONE of their business, only a judge can request this info.
dx
GETTING THREAT_O_TEXTS OR SPOOF BAILIFF CALL FROM M T COLLECT read here
7. Thinking of a Full & Final Settlement?Read Here
my views are my own...seek legal advice if ness
NEVER EVER - act on a private message asking you to visit another website, make contact 'off list' or by telephone
- alert the siteteam IMMEDIATELY by hitting the black warning triangle on any message - Particularly if this results in a request to pay a fee to help you.
rather than hittting to be my friend - hit the star
Re: reclaiming single premium ppi missold A and l help please asap
good afternoon all OK here is another update the saga of this account continues I sent the Following letter
[quote][
21/01/10
Dear Sirs,
Account Number.
Account in Dispute
I am in receipt of your letter dated 5th January 2010.
I have discovered that there is a miss sold payment protection insurance added to this account and am in the process of making an official complaint to the original creditor.
As there is now a genuine and valid dispute which has yet to be resolved, you will be in breach of OFT guidelines should you continue to pursue for payment.
Please note, that I require all communication between us to be in writing. This is in order to protect myself should this proceed to litigation. I will not enter into any discussions about my personal finances over the telephone, therefore any further attempts to contact me in that manner will be considered harassment and reported as such to the regulatory bodies.
/QUOTE]
This posted on the 21st of Jan 2010 arrived with them on the 22nd.
I then recived the following letters the first one arriving on the 28th january 2010
Now the fun with this Account will start the DN is invalid as the address on the right hand side of the letter recived is an Address for Westcott this was confirm via a phonecall with the royal mail and an internet search.
The return Address on envolope refers to Abbey national(santander uk) in Milton Keynes.
The other thing that is completly wrong and this is breaking various acts according to the people at national debt line is that this account had a default issued some years ago which is due to drop of in october 2010 and I have been told they cannot issue a furthur default on the same account full stop the cash owed is basicly what i am owed for missold PPI any adice please.
Re: reclaiming single premium ppi missold A and l help please asap
Yep,
The Default is incorrect in any respect. They say "14 days from date of service". Apart from the fact that you may never receive it they should put a proper date. Tis is in the regulations.
And as you say, this should be issued by Santander (if they are the Creditor) and bear their address not someone elses.
Next. I find it strange that they notify you of an intention to register a default After they have issued a default notice, although that I think is irrelevant.
So your DN is not correct.
Wescott.
The letter you sent them saying the account was in dispute. Have you confirmed that it has been received by checking on the RM Website. If it has then TBH, ignore it.
You could if you feel the need to send something just pop a copy of the letter you sent them advising of the dispute and along with a covering letter say.
Dear Sirs,
Your letter dated blah blah was received by me on (date).
I see this was sent after you had received my letter dated blah, blah. A copy of which is enclosed for your attention.
Yours etc
TBH, If you are going to send Wescott the shorty.. just obtain a free proof of posting slip from the post office and attach it to your file copy..
1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy -HERE
2: Take back control of your finances -Debt Diaries
3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors?Read Here
When the Liberals and Conservatives were in opposition, they both agreed that banks should pay back high bank charges to customers. Nothing seems to have happened since they came into power as a coalition. PPI Insurance has been sorted. Now they should turn their attention to bank charges and help customers get exorbitant charges refunded.
Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.
PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE