Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


An excellent guide for the layperson in how to use the County Court - a must if you are intending to start a claim.

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Last Will and Testament Kit


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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

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    Hi everyone

    Even though this query relates to PPI applied to loans serviced by my current account for which I already have a thread on the go, I want to keep this aspect separate so have started a new thread.

    Over the years we have had several loans with PPI all serviced by our ltsbicon current account. These were all sold to us on the pretext that we had to have the PPI in order for our loan applications to be approved.

    That current account (which has not been in use for a year) has an outstanding overdrafticon balance for which we are being pursued by a DCAicon. The o/d consists entirely of charges for which there is a claim stayed in the court system.

    My query is this -

    If the PPI had never been applied to those loans and our loan repayments had subsequently been lower, many of the direct debiticon payments which were unable to be met due to lack of funds would have been made and this in turn would have prevented the charges being applied in the first place.

    For example, say we had paid £3000 in PPI premiums and currently our o/d balance stood at £3000, it could be argued that if we had never been forced to take the PPI we would be £3000 better off and would not now have a £3000 o/d. That's without taking into account the previously mentioned charges...........

    So what I'm wondering, now that the fosicon have managed to get the bank to admit several of these PPIs were mis-sold (although with no admission of liability and the offers are not yet what they should be), it would be possible to use this argument as a case for why the o/d balance being demanded by the DCA is incorrect?

    Any thoughts or advice on this would be most welcome please

    Many thanks,

    Landy x

    LTSB PPI on various loans (current/settled) - Refunded inc 8%

    MBNA 1 Charges - Refunded inc CI

    MBNA 1 PPI - Refunded

    MBNA 2 Charges - Refunded inc 8%

    MBNA 2 PPI - Refunded

    MBNA 2 Accident Ins - Refunded

    Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage Charges -Partially refunded

    Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage PPI - Refunded inc CI & 8%

    Sainsburys (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI +8%

    Sainsburys (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI + 8%

    M&S Money (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI

    M&S Money (closed) Card PPI - Refunded inc 8%

    Direct Line (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI + 8%

    Debenhams Card (closed) PPI - Refunded inc 8%

    Swift Mortgage Charges -Refunded

    Hitachi Finance (closed) Charges - Refunded

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    LTSB PPI on various loans (current/settled) - Refunded inc 8%

    MBNA 1 Charges - Refunded inc CI

    MBNA 1 PPI - Refunded

    MBNA 2 Charges - Refunded inc 8%

    MBNA 2 PPI - Refunded

    MBNA 2 Accident Ins - Refunded

    Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage Charges -Partially refunded

    Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage PPI - Refunded inc CI & 8%

    Sainsburys (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI +8%

    Sainsburys (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI + 8%

    M&S Money (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI

    M&S Money (closed) Card PPI - Refunded inc 8%

    Direct Line (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI + 8%

    Debenhams Card (closed) PPI - Refunded inc 8%

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    Hi everyone

    I understand that I have to show there was a direct link between the PPIicon that was charged (and shouldn't have been as it was mis-sold) and the payments that were subsequently missed. I'm now having great fun (not) going through many years worth of statements to try to establish some direct links and also to prove consequential loss.

    If anyone can offer any advice or guidance with the best way to go about this it would be hugely appreciated, thank you.

    What I really need is access to some really good banking software

    Landy x

    LTSB PPI on various loans (current/settled) - Refunded inc 8%

    MBNA 1 Charges - Refunded inc CI

    MBNA 1 PPI - Refunded

    MBNA 2 Charges - Refunded inc 8%

    MBNA 2 PPI - Refunded

    MBNA 2 Accident Ins - Refunded

    Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage Charges -Partially refunded

    Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage PPI - Refunded inc CI & 8%

    Sainsburys (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI +8%

    Sainsburys (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI + 8%

    M&S Money (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI

    M&S Money (closed) Card PPI - Refunded inc 8%

    Direct Line (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI + 8%

    Debenhams Card (closed) PPI - Refunded inc 8%

    Swift Mortgage Charges -Refunded

    Hitachi Finance (closed) Charges - Refunded

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    Default Re: Current account/PPI query............

    Quote Originally Posted by landy_alert View Post
    Hi everyone

    Even though this query relates to PPI applied to loans serviced by my current account for which I already have a thread on the go, I want to keep this aspect separate so have started a new thread.

    Over the years we have had several loans with PPI all serviced by our ltsbicon current account. These were all sold to us on the pretext that we had to have the PPI in order for our loan applications to be approved.

    That current account (which has not been in use for a year) has an outstanding overdrafticon balance for which we are being pursued by a DCAicon. The o/d consists entirely of charges for which there is a claim stayed in the court system.

    My query is this -

    If the PPI had never been applied to those loans and our loan repayments had subsequently been lower, many of the direct debiticon payments which were unable to be met due to lack of funds would have been made and this in turn would have prevented the charges being applied in the first place.

    For example, say we had paid £3000 in PPI premiums and currently our o/d balance stood at £3000, it could be argued that if we had never been forced to take the PPI we would be £3000 better off and would not now have a £3000 o/d. That's without taking into account the previously mentioned charges...........

    So what I'm wondering, now that the fosicon have managed to get the bank to admit several of these PPIs were mis-sold (although with no admission of liability and the offers are not yet what they should be), it would be possible to use this argument as a case for why the o/d balance being demanded by the DCA is incorrect?

    Any thoughts or advice on this would be most welcome please

    Many thanks,

    Landy x
    Hello Landy,

    I like the train of thought but the problem is getting the FOS, FSA etc to think in the same way.

    My only suggestion is to complain to all of the regulatory bodies about your particular case. FOS, FSA, ICO, Trading Standards, OFT and anyone else you can think of. A single standard letter putting across all the salient points copied to them all with a copy to LTSB is the only advice I am able to offer on this one.

    I see exactly where you are coming from as mis-sold PPI is the route of all the evils on the loans front. I wish you every success.

    Let the world know what has been going on

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    I have no legal training and the advice I offer is a matter of support. Before you commit to any Legal action you are advised to contact a qualified legal practitioner.
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    Bank charge successes:
    Halifax - Full settlement incl interest.
    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
    RBS - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 70% of claim.
    2 ongoing claims for bank charges with HSBC with more to come. (Supreme Court ruling could have upset these claims) They did
    PPI Successes
    PPI 4 settlements on 9 loans. FOS involvement on 7 added on the 8 % Statutory interest another 30% to both.
    2 claims settled in full with LV without FOS involvement.
    2 claims settled in full with HSBC without FOS involvement

    PPI Claims ongoing with:
    Cap one Now with the FOS
    Barclays. Paid up today 24/04/10 cheque received for over £4,500 and in the bank.
    LTSB still have to decide on this as their SAR production was abysmal. Papers data mixed up documents missing etc

    1 Complaint not upheld by FOS they said it was ICO issue. Complaint upheld by ICO. See this..
    Post 290 from
    ***RBS PPI Claim Long fight but, WON***

    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.


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