Thread: Quick Question On Supposed Trader

Hi there,

Looks dodgy to me. Pics not very proffesional and their address is a bit ambiguous and 'cars located in 2 locations'? Personally I would'nt touch em with a barge pole mate.

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does no comply no reg address shown vat no etc etc

bargepole comes to mind

Sorry but I would poke that where the sun don't shine. No address and a mobile number. I know they are not asking for money on the site, but any legit dealer would have all the information required to go see them.

It looks like he is a reseller and rings up people saying he has a buyer for their car.

Too many real dealers around and the model of car you want to bother with amateur cowboys like that.

Perhaps if the site could have been taken seriously, it would have been more serious or refined, but I don't have time for joke sites that are not what they pretend to be.

The OP has already checked them out at companies house with no result, so what more can be said. They have registered their address with the site though

Registrant's address:
27 Ashbourne Avenue
Bradford
West Yorkshire
BD2 4AW
United Kingdom

And Google maps shows that as a private house.

Originally Posted by heliosuk

Conniff, whilst you guys are probably correct in the assumption that it's iffy, and I don't deny this, it's a typical case of the gun ho attitude that can exist on this site.

What I was attempting to point out is that there is a possibility that it is a legit sale ( though the odds are against). Further, as per the op's link, tis hardly a trader masquerading as a private sellar. It's also listed as a trade sellar aparrently. As the post clearly says it's a trade sale so must be a trade sellar.

Are you now saying that in the glossy mags the pics of exotic cars for sale are dodgy as they don't advertise the vat number or registered address? Some of them even have a mobile number for enquiries.

So lets then move on to the private house issue you have. I've owned LTD companies with trading addresses, some with my private address and some with trading names at that address.

The point is that here you are going at a company who is potentially (though looks like more than unlikely) might actually turn out to be quite legitimate.

What I meant to get across but was let down by my literarary skills it that it's not a site to instill confidence.
So how do I get to see the car, there is no showroom address and yet it would seem that he has all these cars for sale.
If it was a showroom, then it should have a landline number and not a mobile.

Lots of business are registered from home, I know that, my son is one of them, but he does have all the details available on his site that you can trace him.

What I meant to say was 'first appearances can count for a lot'.

The first thing I look at on any site is for name, address, co No and landline. They don't have them I don't even look at their products.

"just because you witness a man throwing a match into a fire does not necessarily mean that the man smokes"

It probably means his mother in law is sitting on the top.

Now that Les Dawson has gone yes, it should be bankers. Wish I had thought of that first.

Originally Posted by leicesterlad

it is a legit site set up through autotrader/tradermedia they set up a website for you for a monthly fee must be vat reg to hold an account
check out Kmcarsales.co.uk - Km Car Sales

most independant traders set up these websites as its cheaper and easier than doing it yourself and the beauty is when you upload your advert onto your website it automatically uploads onto the autotraders website.

i personally think it gives the trader more credibility rather than a small advert in the paper witha mobile number. imean ffs he is giving his home address.....

It doesn't give them any credibility, but it does give them more exposure.

It says the car is for sale by them (KM) so why can't I go and see it, why do they only have a mobile number, why aren't they registered with Companies House. If they have to be VAT registered to hold the account with Autotrader, they must be a registered business, so why are they not showing their company number on the site, why aren't they saying these are customers cars being sold by us on behalf of the customer.

I would say this is one of those companies that tout genuine private sellers for a price saying they have a buyer for the car when in fact they do not and stick them up on the website hoping to attract a buyer.

What is this KM Bradford, they may as well say KM Europe for all that is worth as it don't tell you where they are and the address the site is reg under is a private house and all these cars aren't on show there.

and not all motortraders own forecourts and glass fronted showrooms. some sell from home and most of the photos are taken in the same place, i would suggest this is a sole trader working from home with a website supplied by autotrader.

edited sorry for the respose