Hi everyone,

Hope everyone had a good new year last night and starting 2010 on a positive, unlike me

I dropped my iPhone last night in a puddleits water damaged, called up 02 insurance this morning to make a claim and apparently, the IMEI number I'm currently using and the IMEI number they have on their system are two completely different numbers and therefore will not pay out.

I cannot recall ever changing iPhone, when I was sold the insurance, surely the IMEI number would have been verified, they are also saying the original IMEI number was used for 1 day of my contract and then the new one has been used for the last 4-5 months.

I have been paying my monthly premium of £10 since the date of purchase and cannot believe this is now happening.

Could people please advise and help, much appreciated.

do you still have the original box or sales invoice when you purchessed the phone

was it from an o2 shop or on line

I purchased it from an Apple Store, just been through everything and my original iPhone I signed up with was actually exchanged 24 hours later and replaced with a new one. I have receipts for both iPhones.

I did not take out the 02 Insurance at the time of purchase, but took it out at a later date, definitely had the new IMEI number at the time of purchasing the Insurance.

Is this a problem? - I have both receipts with both IMEI numbers, surely they have to honour the agreement and replace my iPhone.

why was the first phone replaced

did the apple store do the replacement

The first iPhone was replaced because there was a problem with it so Apple replaced it straightaway at their store and issued me with a new one and I have receipt.

this is getting better

was the sim card on the first phone activated by say

a call

say no

What do you mean, this is getting better?

The first handset was working but developed a fault with the vibrate button, so Apple replaced it with a new one and issued a new receipt.

did you make a call with the first handset

I think so, yes, but to be totally honest, I cannot remember - It was 6 months ago.

ok

i needed to know

by making a call, you activated the contract and t&c

you say you got the phone insurance later

how long later

was it through apple or 02

Ok, phone insurance was purchased through 02 Insurance and it's added to my monthly bill.

The 02 Insurance was purchased like 1-2 months later but it is definitely covered...

I'm slightly confused now, when I took out the 02 Insurance surely on their system they would have seen I'm using a different IMEI iPhone so why did they not question it then? - I've got both receipts anyway...

thats my point

when the second phone was registered by apple, the imei number would be registered to your sim (phone number)

the insurance was taken out later so there is no way 02 should have your old imei on file

i think you are being given the brush off

this is an 02 frack up

So what do I do then? 02 Insurance is actually closed today... I've been paying my monthly insurance premium while 02 knowing knew that the IMEI's were actually different...

Do I have a case? I currently have no phone now and was hoping that 02 would replace it

well i myself would go into an 02 shop and mention what i have said

this is a frack up by 02

they need to replace/repair the phone

Well 02 Insurance is closed until Monday anyway, but what do you think?

o2 are in breach of contract

replace the phone or sod off

Could you explain how they are so when I come to talk to them on Monday, I can question them and hopefully in turn, they will replace it. Thanks!

before you do anything i would send a pm to this cagger

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/member.php?u=36133

this person is god on mobile agreements and you will get it straight from the horses mouth so to speak

Messaged him.

Happy New Year all!

This problem isn't all that unusual, but (from the insurer's point of view) they need verifiable evidence that they are covering the insured'shandset, and not any other substitute in order to obtain a 'free' exchange for a handset not covered.

O2 the network and O2 Insurance are not the same thing. It is a completely separate company (and really, nothing to do with Telefonica). This addresses your issue of 'tey should have known you had changed'. They'd be the last person to know, BUT there will be a document somewhere - probably provided by Apple, to show the originally covered IMEI and the model to replace it.

When the replacement is arranged by the insurer, they take care of updating the IMEI of the exchange, BUT if you do this without reference to them, then you need proof to confirm that the handset originally covered was replaced by the one you are now claiming for. It shouldn't be too much of a formality to get them to update their records and swing into action with your current faulty handset.

Ever thought it time to try a different handset....?

But why was the first number given to the ins company at all as the ins wasn't taken out until way after the second handset was in use?

The only place anyone could reasonably FIND this information was from the Airtime Contract, which will note both the IMEI and IMSI codes. This is fine for nealry all situations, except where there has already been a faulty SIM change (or handset).

I think you'd call it incompetence, but I cannot see where else they would be able to know what the handset would be, OR whether there had been any swap.

Hi Nervo,

When you first got your iphone (the original one) it would have had to of been registered and activated... with iphones this is only done through itunes.

So when you first registered your iphone and account with itunes, all IMEI/Serial Numbers are recorded and registered with them. Your itunes account will hold both IMEI Numbers and the dates they were registered (and show the same Sim card/ phone number was being used for both phones).

Unfortunately, iTunes (a third party retail extablishment) would provide nothing of interest to an insurer, who would be seeking a link that connects both devices and a most basic level (dealer, agency etc) who effected the swap. Anything else is invariably too far removed and (reasonably) simple to fabricate, even assuming they woukld accept it.

They finally paid out and got my new iPhone delivered today.

Can I cancel my policy in a few days? - Their service was awful.