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    Default Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    In may 2007, jointly with my ex husband took out a tesco (RBSicon) personal loan for 25k. My husband left me in Oct 2008 and I maintained payments until Dec 08. I have paid nothing since. This was not a decision I took lightly, but did not have sufficient funds so concentrated on my priority debts.

    - my last correspondence with tesco was July 09. I sent them my budget and made it clear I could not arroded payments
    - Incasso obtained a CCJ against my ex in Sept 09 - I am not sure what the current status of that is
    - I do not have enough disposable income for an IVA and for obvious reasons do not want bankruptcy. This is one of 3 unsecured creditors (about 60% of the overall total)
    - I have today received a demand for Incasso for the full amount (standard letter, limited info, 14 days to pay)

    I intend to file a complaint with tesco for failure to follow OFT guidelines (they have never told me the case has been passed to Incasso) and I believe Incasso are demanding an unreasonably large amount. I will follow up with complaints to the Law Society (Incasso) and fosicon (Tesco) if appropriate. However this will only delay them. In a seperate letter Incasso has asked for a copy of a transfer of equity form which my husband signed in respect of my property (I will not be providing this!!). My questions are:

    - is it reasonable to include in any defence to a county courticon claim, that I have gone a significant life changing event (seperation) which could not have been anticipated when I took the loan out. As a result of this I was forced to prioritise my debts and as a result unsecured debts went unpaid
    - is a reasonable defence to a charging order the fact my house is in negative equity? It is worth circa 165k but currently has loans (main mortage and second charge) of around 205k? Therefore there is no reasonable hope of Tesco ever getting anything. I have maintained payments on both these loans although both are currently in managed arrears.

    For info, I am in full time employment, have have a enough money for priority debts and living expenses. Tesco have previously suppiled what appears to be a valid, signed copy of a CCA.

    PLEASE HELP!! I want to be prepared. I know Incasso are rottweillers and will follow up leagal threats!


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    subbingicon.

    In the meantime i'm really hoping someone very knowledgeable will come along!!!!

    Your husbands CCJ was for what? The full amount?

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    - is it reasonable to include in any defence to a county court claim, that I have gone a significant life changing event (seperation) which could not have been anticipated when I took the loan out. As a result of this I was forced to prioritise my debts and as a result unsecured debts went unpaid Could really do with a comment on this from someone that knows!!
    - is a reasonable defence to a charging order the fact my house is in negative equity? It is worth circa 165k but currently has loans (main mortage and second charge) of around 205k? Therefore there is no reasonable hope of Tesco ever getting anything. I have maintained payments on both these loans although both are currently in managed arrears.I believe that this is used as a defence, albeit not the strongest of defences. need more views here!!!![/QUOTE]
    Hopefully i've bumped you. Your problems are complicated though I reckon there's a solution.

    hang in there.

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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    I don't know how much or what status - I was only aware becuase initally all the paperwork came to my address.

    I have posted on here before, but never seem to get a response


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    I'll see if I can get you some more knowledgeable help.

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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Quote Originally Posted by GirlAloud View Post
    In may 2007, jointly with my ex husband took out a tesco (RBSicon) personal loan for 25k. My husband left me in Oct 2008 and I maintained payments until Dec 08. I have paid nothing since. This was not a decision I took lightly, but did not have sufficient funds so concentrated on my priority debts.

    - my last correspondence with tesco was July 09. I sent them my budget and made it clear I could not arroded payments
    - Incasso obtained a CCJ against my ex in Sept 09 - I am not sure what the current status of that is
    - I do not have enough disposable income for an IVA and for obvious reasons do not want bankruptcy. This is one of 3 unsecured creditors (about 60% of the overall total)
    - I have today received a demand for Incasso for the full amount (standard letter, limited info, 14 days to pay)

    I intend to file a complaint with tesco for failure to follow OFT guidelines (they have never told me the case has been passed to Incasso) and I believe Incasso are demanding an unreasonably large amount. I will follow up with complaints to the Law Society (Incasso) and fosicon (Tesco) if appropriate. However this will only delay them. In a seperate letter Incasso has asked for a copy of a transfer of equity form which my husband signed in respect of my property (I will not be providing this!!). My questions are:

    - is it reasonable to include in any defence to a county courticon claim, that I have gone a significant life changing event (seperation) which could not have been anticipated when I took the loan out. As a result of this I was forced to prioritise my debts and as a result unsecured debts went unpaid
    - is a reasonable defence to a charging order the fact my house is in negative equity? It is worth circa 165k but currently has loans (main mortage and second charge) of around 205k? Therefore there is no reasonable hope of Tesco ever getting anything. I have maintained payments on both these loans although both are currently in managed arrears.

    For info, I am in full time employment, have have a enough money for priority debts and living expenses. Tesco have previously suppiled what appears to be a valid, signed copy of a CCA.

    PLEASE HELP!! I want to be prepared. I know Incasso are rottweillers and will follow up leagal threats!
    There are issues here I am unable to help with but....

    My question is did you have payment protection insurance (PPIicon) on this loan??

    If you did there is a strong possibility that the PPI may have been mis-sold due to you circumstances at the time. If PPI was attached and you have a claim for mis-selling this may be of help to you.

    Please have a look in this forum.

    Payment Protection Insurance (PPI)

    I am sure the site team will look at all the eventuallities and offer support and guidance as they can.

    Please post up for more help and if you consider PPI to be an issue please start a thread in the PPI forum

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    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    No PPIicon attached to this loan. I have sending a letter off to Tesco tomorrow about failure to follow OFT guidelines though I know (with Incasso) I am only delaying the inevitable.

    In terms of the charging order should I lay my cards on the table now re. Neg equity? That let them no there is nothing for them and they will essentially be flogging the proverbial dead horse.


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    I was posting in the hope PPIicon would be an issue. Sorry but I am not up to helping on the issues of charging orders. I would however explain to them the full situation regarding your circumstances.

    I was not aware that Tesco were a company that would do this, especially at this time of year.

    I will now shop at ASDA/Morrisons as a personal protest. I know this is no help to your plight but principles come into play here.

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    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
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    2 ongoing claims for bank charges with HSBC with more to come. (Supreme Court ruling could have upset these claims) They did
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    PPI 4 settlements on 9 loans. FOS involvement on 7 added on the 8 % Statutory interest another 30% to both.
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    2 claims settled in full with HSBC without FOS involvement

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    Cap one Now with the FOS
    Barclays. Paid up today 24/04/10 cheque received for over £4,500 and in the bank.
    LTSB still have to decide on this as their SAR production was abysmal. Papers data mixed up documents missing etc

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    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Thank you for your kind thoughts and would appreciate any other urgent help anyone can offer.


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Quote Originally Posted by GirlAloud View Post
    - Incasso obtained a CCJ against my ex in Sept 09 - I am not sure what the current status of that is
    Have Incasso started the Charging Order application process?

    - is it reasonable to include in any defence to a county courticon claim, that I have gone a significant life changing event (seperation) which could not have been anticipated when I took the loan out. As a result of this I was forced to prioritise my debts and as a result unsecured debts went unpaid
    That isn't a defence to the fact that you owe the money. You might wish to apply to vary the judgment to affordable instalments, you can do this via the n245 form. It costs £35 to do so and could prevent a charging order if you keep up with the instalments.
    - is a reasonable defence to a charging order the fact my house is in negative equity? It is worth circa 165k but currently has loans (main mortage and second charge) of around 205k?
    Very reasonable.

    Have you other unsecured debts?


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Incasso have nothing yet apart from give me 14 days - though I know the county courticon Papers will follow shortly afterwards. Currently dealing with two other unsecured credt card debts - neither of which (despite many requests) have produced a valid CCA.


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    You need to get that variation application sorted ASAP, If you can obtain instalments it would prevent them from being able to secure a charging order. More info here:

    National Debtline England & Wales | Debt Advice | Factsheet 08 Reducing Payments Or Suspending A bailiffs Warrant On A county court Judgment


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Hi GirlAloud,

    subbingicon with interesticon.

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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    As for the equity thing, I guess it depends on how long is left on your mortgageicon, if you can maintain payments for the next say 40 years on the mortgageicon it means that in 40 years there may be enough equity for tesco - unfortunately companies have time on their hands, so they may be looking very long term on this


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Guys, this is a thread which was dormant for 6 months.


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    Default Re: Please help.........Tesco/Incasso

    Been in touch with GirlAloud by pm. We have a common denominator....Tesco/Incasso and now Cobbetts. She maybe posting on here again soon. Just subbed so I know when it happens.

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