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    Default SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Here's an interesting one...

    I CCA'd Halifaxicon a few months ago, and the agreement looked to be all good and proper so I've been paying every month.

    I had a couple of 'issues' and missed the last two months payment.

    I received a DN from the Halifax with a remedy date of 10th December 2009.

    I have received a letter today dated 3rd December stating that as I've not paid by the date on the notice they've terminated my account.

    I'm surspised to say that the letter of termination dated 3/12 plus a DN with a remedy date of 10/12 would appear to be unlawful recission of contract- and they wouldn't be entitled to collect anything other than the overdue figure on the DN.

    Any thoughts?


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    Oh dear.. the plonkers.

    diddydicky and vint1954 are the two peeps you need to speak to regarding this scenario.

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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Ok, I'll go and have a search later. IF they could have a case then I need to remedy the DN tomorrow irrespective of what they say in their letter


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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Quote Originally Posted by SB100 View Post
    Here's an interesting one...

    I CCA'd Halifaxicon a few months ago, and the agreement looked to be all good and proper so I've been paying every month.

    I had a couple of 'issues' and missed the last two months payment.

    I received a DN from the Halifax with a remedy date of 10th December 2009.

    I have received a letter today dated 3rd December stating that as I've not paid by the date on the notice they've terminated my account.

    I'm surspised to say that the letter of termination dated 3/12 plus a DN with a remedy date of 10/12 would appear to be unlawful recission of contract- and they wouldn't be entitled to collect anything other than the overdue figure on the DN.

    Any thoughts?
    the only thing i can think of is ......... which champagne shall i choose!!

    if you need a reply letter ill do you one but i am away until next monday=- let me know and ill do it then


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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    I've checked the CRA's but nothing showing yet.

    Do you think the letter stating they'd terminated on 3/12, combined with the DN with remedy date of 10/12, is sufficient to defend should they bring proceedings?

    Thanks for your help - and if / when you have a min to pen me a reply I'd be really grateful


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    Quote Originally Posted by SB100 View Post
    I've checked the CRA's but nothing showing yet.

    Do you think the letter stating they'd terminated on 3/12, combined with the DN with remedy date of 10/12, is sufficient to defend should they bring proceedings?

    Thanks for your help - and if / when you have a min to pen me a reply I'd be really grateful
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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Lol. When I spoke to them on Monday to confirm the remedy date of DN, they told me they may have issued it, but a default wouldn't be registered. They told me it wasn't 'passed over' until seven months, and I was only two months in arrears.

    The letter today's also telling me if I don't pay up pdq they'll report me to the CRA's.

    Funny


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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Thinking about it, the real irony here is that I think they had an enforceable CCA - and I was quite happily (with the exception of the last two months) making payment!


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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Heres the scans of the DN and termination notice. It all looks ok for me and not so ok for them.. but they do have an enforceable CCA in my opinion so I need to be 110% sure before I let it default- although it seems they've already done it.








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    Quote Originally Posted by SB100 View Post
    Here's an interesting one...

    I CCA'd Halifaxicon a few months ago, and the agreement looked to be all good and proper so I've been paying every month.

    I had a couple of 'issues' and missed the last two months payment.

    I received a DN from the Halifax with a remedy date of 10th December 2009.

    I have received a letter today dated 3rd December stating that as I've not paid by the date on the notice they've terminated my account.

    I'm surspised to say that the letter of termination dated 3/12 plus a DN with a remedy date of 10/12 would appear to be unlawful recission of contract- and they wouldn't be entitled to collect anything other than the overdue figure on the DN.

    Any thoughts?
    Great news all in all.

    This is indeed unlawful rescission of the agreement. They are daft. Can you scan and post the DN up minus your personal details. That also may be faulty. Did you keep the envelope? although not that important given the termination.

    You will need to acknwoledge and accept the unlawful rescission of the agreement, after today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diddydicky View Post
    the only thing i can think of is ......... which champagne shall i choose!!

    if you need a reply letter ill do you one but i am away until next monday=- let me know and ill do it then
    I need to learn to read the rest of the thread before posting

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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    No probs Yep, kept the envelope, just in case.

    DiddyDicky has offered assistance with the letter


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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    They have well and truely shot themselves in the foot.

    As DD has said, you will need to acknowledge this, so use the letter that DD has offered.

    The best action on your part, following sending the acceptance would be to down a bottle of Krug

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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Have you posted your agreement anywhere?

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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    No I didn't bother.

    It was dated 2007 and included all prescribed terms as far as I could ascertain.

    Do you feel its of relevance now the account has been terminated unlawfully?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SB100 View Post
    No I didn't bother.

    It was dated 2007 and included all prescribed terms as far as I could ascertain.

    Do you feel its of relevance now the account has been terminated unlawfully?
    If after April 2007, then not realy relevant.

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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Fluffystuff has had the exact same letter.

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ml#post2636904

    Another candidate for DiddyDicky's letter.

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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Looking at the dates of yours and fluffystuff's letters from Halifaxicon, they have corrected their historic problem with the DN's not allowing enough time to rectify, but not linked it to the issueing of termination notices. 14 days from the 19th November is indeed the 3rd December. Idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vint1954 View Post
    Looking at the dates of yours and fluffystuff's letters from Halifaxicon, they have corrected their historic problem with the DN's not allowing enough time to rectify, but not linked it to the issueing of termination notices. 14 days from the 19th November is indeed the 3rd December. Idiots.



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    When the Liberals and Conservatives were in opposition, they both agreed that banks should pay back high bank charges to customers. Nothing seems to have happened since they came into power as a coalition. PPI Insurance has been sorted. Now they should turn their attention to bank charges and help customers get exorbitant charges refunded.


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    Default Re: SB100 v Halifax Credit Card

    Hi SB100,

    We are indeed in exactly the same situation as you - thanks Vint for connecting the threads.
    Please could you let us have a look at DD's letter when done.

    Many thanks.



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