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    hi all,
    im starting a new threadicon on sat i got a special letter from cash genie i opened it and it said county courticon letter from ipswich but the address said online ipswich county court,and its asking for all my employment details and my bank details,the solicitor says peter turvey i dunno if thats right.second they are asking for £500 even thou i asked for £150 from them and i paid £45 pounds so in total they are inc all the court charges and everything else!! someone please help me!! ill be gratefull!!


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    xxmcvapourxx, I don't get you, not one bit! Your first post on the other thread was the 22nd September saying you were due to repay two months before. (julyish) Therefore, your nearly 5 months late! You said on the 22nd September that you were going to offer a £30 repayment planicon p/m. I take it you haven't done this. I think this site should be used only for people that want genuine help and not people that won't even help themselves. My advice, pay up quickly and save a CCJ


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    Yes this is asking for genuine help!! whats it got to do with you!! this post is for 42man


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    Is there a court stamp on this paperwork?

    Blackhorse Finance : Isssued court papers for £3400 and return of car, settled for £1000

    Lloyds TSB : SAR request taken all the way to Court, Damages awarded.

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    Peter tuvey - a solicitor? I doubt it he works for cash genie and will do anything to recover cash. Doubt a court would ask you for your bank details. As for pokerace probably worth checking their previous posts to see why they are showing an interesticon. As Havingstella says you need to check with court if need be that this letter is rubbish.


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    Default Re: Cash Genie Court Letter

    Phone The Court And Quote The Claim Number To See If Its Real

    Its Quite Rare For A payday loanicon Company To Go Legal


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    Robjam, don't be bitter because of a post I made on a thread about UncleBuck. This isn't a place to get personal between caggers. postggj, solid advice.


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    its got northampton county courticon the address money claim online
    northampton county court but there is another address fisons house 159 princes street ipswich lp1 1qj thing is at the bottom of the form its a n1cpc claim form (04.06) there aint no solictor cost which is strange?? i went to www.moneyclaim.gov.uk


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    fisons house 159 princes street ipswich

    is a serviced office building, offices to let etc

    a scan of the document sent ( remove personal details first ) would be better so we can see what you actually got

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    here is the attachment:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerace View Post
    xxmcvapourxx, I don't get you, not one bit! Your first post on the other thread was the 22nd September saying you were due to repay two months before. (julyish) Therefore, your nearly 5 months late! You said on the 22nd September that you were going to offer a £30 repayment planicon p/m. I take it you haven't done this. I think this site should be used only for people that want genuine help and not people that won't even help themselves. My advice, pay up quickly and save a CCJ
    Firstly just because you get a claim form it doesn't automatically mean a CCJ!

    Secondly this site is non judgemental, whether the OP intended to come to an arrangement with CG or not, they are just as intitled to ask for help as anyone else


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    I currently have a claim form in front of me that I am helping a friend deal with.

    There is a section that asks about the status of your bank account - overdrawn etc, but nowhere does it ask for your account number etc...


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    so what shall i do? im asking nicely for some help!! do i respond to the form and see what happens?


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    I would try logging onto moneyclaim online and try entering the details you have been given. It will soon tell you if it's genuine or not.

    After you've discovered that you can then decide what to do next..


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    PLEASE NOTE - I am not a legal expert, what is stated is my own opinion and from what I have learnt from this forum and my own experiences.

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    What are the particulars of the claim MCV ?

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    basiclly they are asking for all the intrest,letters,phone callsicon,emails for £502 without solictor fees just £95 of court fees on a £150 loan and i paid £45 the form is signed by peter turvey through moneyclaim.co.uk.i have attached the form above.and i dunno what do to?


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    What does it say on the court forms....what are the particulars of the claim ?

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    Can you scan / photo the claim form and post it up here ? Does it have a court stamp on it ?...if you read the thread I gave you then that will help. Did they send a default notice to you ?

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    First things first....you need to send a CPR31.14 like this (but the letter has to be in line with the particulars of the claim...(that is why I am asking for them)...send this recorded....you have to acknowledge receipt of the claim from within 14 days of the date on the claim...if you are defending all then state that...you then get a further 14+3 days in which to submit your defence...

    Dear Sir,

    Re: (Claimant's name) v (Your name) Case No:
    CPR 31.14 Request

    On (date) I received the Claim Form in this case issued by you out of the (Name) county courticon.

    I confirm having returned my acknowledgement of service to the court in which I indicate my intention to contest all of your claim.

    [Prior to the issue of proceedings I had delivered a request for the production of the agreement mentioned in the Claim Form and on which you rely. That request was ignored][delete if no such request was delivered]

    Please treat this letter as my request made under CPR 31.14 for the disclosure and the production of a verified and legible copy of [each of the following / the] document(s) mentioned in your Particulars of Claim:

    1 the agreement. You will appreciate that in an ordinary case and by reason of the provisions of CPR PD 16 para 7.3, where a claim is based upon a written agreement, a copy of the contract or documents constituting the agreement should be attached to or served with the particulars of claim and the original(s) should be available at the hearing. Further, that any general conditions incorporated in the contract should also be attached.

    2 the assignment*

    3 the default notice*

    4 the termination notice*

    5 [any other documents mentioned in the Particulars of Claim]*

    * delete if not mentioned in the Particulars of claim.

    [Although your claim is for a sum which is not more than £5,000.00 and will in all likelihood be allocated to the small claims track for determination upon my delivering a defence, at this moment in time I have not delivered my defence and the case has not been allocated to a track. In consequence the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect and you should not seek to avoid compliance with your CPR 31 duties by claiming otherwise]#

    # delete if claim for a sum exceeding £5,000.00

    You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter. Your CPR 31 duties extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for the originals of the documents I have requested, the better for you to be able to verify the document's authenticity and to provide me with a legible copy. Further, where I have requested a copy of a document, the original of which is now in the possession of another person, you will have a right to possession of that document if you have mentioned it in your case. You must take immediate steps to recover and preserve it for the purpose of this case.

    Where I have mentioned a document and there is in your possession more than one version of that same document owing to a modification, obliteration or other marking or feature, each version will be a separate document and you must provide a copy of each version of it to me. Your obligations extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for any version(s) to include an obligation to recover and preserve such version(s) which are now in the possession of a third party.

    In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

    If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing. You must tell me before the time for compliance with this request has expired. In telling me you require more time you must tell me what steps you have taken and propose to take in order to comply with this request and also state a date by when you will comply with this request. In addition your statement must be accompanied with a statement that you agree to an extension of the time for me to file my defence. Your extension of time must be not less than 14 days from the date when you say you will have complied with my request and you must state the new date for filing my defence.

    If you are unable to comply with this request and believe that you will never be able to comply with this request you must tell me in writing.

    Please note that if you should fail to comply with this request, fail to request more time or fail to agree to an extension of time for the filing of my defence, I will make an application to the court for an order that the proceedings be struck out or stayed for non-compliance and a summary costs order.

    I do hope this will not be necessary and look forward to hearing from you.

    yours faithfully


    or this -

    You could send off this letter requesting the prompt supply of those documents which ought to have been disclosed at the time the proceedings began, which would have been identified in the Particulars of Claim if the Claimant had properly pleaded its case and, a full statement of the manner by which the Claimant asserts the right to interest, to include a statement from the Claimant saying whether there is any interest, and if so how much interest within the figure of £Xxx.xx.

    Here's that letter for delivery to the Claimant or where the Claimant proceeds by solicitor, to the solicitor.

    Dear Sir,

    Re: (Claimant's name) v (Your name) Case No:

    Combined CPR 31.12 and CPR 16.4(2) Request

    On (date) I received the Claim Form in this case issued by you out of the (Name) County Court. I confirm having returned my Acknowledgement of Service form to the court indicating my intention to contest all of the proceedings.

    Owing to the striking lack of particularity in your Particulars of Claim, I require the prompt disclosure by you pursuant to CPR 31.12 of each of the following documents, mention or reference to which would have been made had the Particulars of Claim contained the minimum of necessary particulars and complied generally with CPR PD 16.

    1 the agreement giving rise to the obligation to Cash Genie for the credit advanced. You will appreciate that in an ordinary case and by reason of the provisions of CPR PD 16 para 7.3, where a claim is based upon a written agreement, a copy of the contract or documents constituting the agreement should be attached to or served with the particulars of claim and the original(s) should be available at the hearing. Further, that any general conditions incorporated in the contract should also be attached.

    2 the deed or other instrument of assignment by which you / the Claimant acquired rights under the agreement disclosed by you under [1] above.

    3 the default notice, the service of which was a condition precedent to the creation of the debt now sued upon by you pursuant to the assignment disclosed by you under [2] above.

    Additionally and in relation to the interest claimed, pursuant to CPR 16.4(2)

    4 Under CPR 16.4(2)(a)(i) please now state whether the claim to £Xxx.xx includes a claim for interest under the agreement disclosed under [1] above and if so,

    5 Under CPR 16.4(2)(b) specify the amount of that interest, and

    6 the percentage rate of interest, the date from which it is calculated and the date to which it is calculated, alternatively

    7 Where more than one percentage rate of interest has been applied or compound interest has been applied in the calculation of the amount of interest specified at [5], specify each element of interest comprising the sum for interest specified at [5] and for each such element specify the amount treated as principal in the interest calculation, the percentage rate of interest, the date from which it is calculated and the date to which it is calculated.

    8 Of the interest amounting to £Xxx.xx claimed pursuant to County Courts Act 1984 section 69, specify the date from which it is calculated and the date to which it is calculated.

    Although your claim is for a sum which is not more than £5,000.00 and will in all likelihood be allocated to the small claims track for determination upon my delivering a defence, at this moment in time I have not delivered my defence and the case has not been allocated to a track. In consequence the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect and you should not seek to avoid compliance with your CPR 31 duties by claiming otherwise.

    You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the documents I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter. Your CPR 31 duties extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for the originals of the documents I have requested, the better for you to be able to verify the document's authenticity and to provide me with a legible copy. Further, where I have requested a copy of a document, the original of which is now in the possession of another person, you will have a right to possession of that document if you have mentioned it in your case. You must take immediate steps to recover and preserve it for the purpose of this case.

    Where I have mentioned a document and there is in your possession more than one version of that same document owing to a modification, obliteration or other marking or feature, each version will be a separate document and you must provide a copy of each version of it to me. Your obligations extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for any version(s) to include an obligation to recover and preserve such version(s) which are now in the possession of a third party.

    In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.12 request.

    You should also ensure compliance with your CPR 16 duties and likewise ensure that the particular regarding interest are fully provided to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter.

    If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing. You must tell me before the time for compliance with this request has expired. In telling me you require more time you must tell me what steps you have taken and propose to take in order to comply with this request and also state a date by when you will comply with this request.

    If you are unable to comply with that part of this request concerned with CPR 31 and believe that you will never be able to comply with this request you must tell me in writing.

    Please note that if you should fail to comply with any part of this request or fail to request more time, I will make an application to the court for an order that the proceedings be struck out or stayed for non-compliance and a summary costs order.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    yours faithfully

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