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    Default Hi All, Please can you help?

    Hi,

    I shall try and keep this short but I am very worried about an old deby with GE Money who have now passed this to Direct Legal Collections. 3 Years ago my now ex-husband and I had our home repossessed and I believed that the secured loan also on the property with GE was settled at that time too? My Ex Husband had been made redundanticon and I was the only earner throughout most of our short and abusive relationship. It took me a while to leave him and now having finalised my divorceicon etc I was beginning to look to the future. You can imagine my surprise when I received a letter from DLC last week claiming over £26K and I don't know where I stand. I have a good job so no rights to Legal Aid yet very little disposable income with usual running costs and the paying of some of our other joint debts (with no help from the ex). So I really need some help as to where I stand and how I respond to this letter, they have written to my ex too who said if they try and enforce it he will go bankrupt! Is it still a charge they can try and enforce as it was attached to our old home and how do I approach them and offer a low repayment as I truly have little left each month even to manage shopping etc is that is my only option?
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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Hi and welcome to the CAGicon

    If this is the shortfall from the sale of the house then I'm afraid that there is little leeway, but hopefully someone more up on mortgageicon shortfalls can help better than me.

    However when they repossed did you sign anything that stated you accepted the difference , I forget for the moment what the form is called.

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Thread moved to mortgageicon Forum.

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    I don't remember us signing anything when it sold, we weren't even informed that they had until a few months after!? This may be a shortfall but its not from the main mortgageicon, I thought that all secured items had to be sorted before they could finalise the sale?
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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    in that case I would send GE Money a SARicon requesting all details of the sale and subsequent activities on this mortgageicon

    also write to the dca and state that you dipsute this debt and that until ge cough up the paperwork requested you aint dealing with them

    a SARicon can be found here

    The Consumer Forums - debt collectors

    it costs £10 send it recorded, they then have 40 days to provide the info

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    I believe the 2nd charge holder would have been required to transfer shortfall to unsecured agreement on sale.

    Do you have any paperwork to assist with identification?....... hopefully it will be CCA regulated and unenforceable.

    I'm assuming shortfall (if its a genuine claim) would have been below 25k threshold and its now at 26k due to charges?

    Have a read of one banks warnings on their mortgageicon notes issue last year....... even they know they're on a sticky wicket

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Thanks for your reply, what sort of paperwork would I need to know if its cca regulated? I believe that yes the amount would have been under £25k before charges too.
    If I can find the right paperwork etc, who do I contact first, GE? DLC both as was earlier suggested?


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nettyla View Post
    Thanks for your reply, what sort of paperwork would I need to know if its cca regulated? I believe that yes the amount would have been under £25k before charges too.
    If I can find the right paperwork etc, who do I contact first, GE? DLC both as was earlier suggested?
    You'll be looking for anything resembling an agreement stating that its regulated under CCA 1974. You may not necessarily have anything of the sort but a SARicon as suggested in pevious post would show evidence of this if the shortfall were transferred.

    Once you know if it is subject to CCA then you can move on to a CCA request.


    You can send a prove it letter to the DCAicon which should slow things up for a while whilst you try to figure out exactly whats gone before.

    SARicon goes to the original creditor (GE), prove it goes to the DCA (DLC)

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Just a quick reply, which is the prove it letter that is referred to in the post? I have managed to find all the paperwork which relates to the original agreement and am trawling through the smallprint to find out if its subject to CCA- will possibly need some help when I've located the relevant parts.
    Thanks for all your help and support already I feel better already knowing that there is information that may help :o)


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Sorry, may have added the wrong link......doh

    Try this one ........

    http://www.consumerforums.com/resour...ng-of-the-debt


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    I have managed to locate a copy of our original agreement (with I-group who then became ge money) and it clearly states at the top of the document that it is a credit agreement under the CCA 1974. So with this knowledge can you suggest who I should now write to with regards this matter, do I still write to the DCAicon or to GE or both and do I enclose copies of my letter to GE to the DCA?
    Sorry this is a bit muddled but the DCA have given me until the 9/11 to respond to their request and I want to get this sorted asap.
    Thanks


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    you need to post the agreement up on here so people can look ovr it to see if it is enforceable, delete any personal info though

    and the DCAicon can stuff their deadlines, just write back and state you are seeking clarification of this alledged debt

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Not a great copy but please see attached our credit agreement, all help will be gratefully received as to how to go forward next, thanks.
    I will post a draft of the letter I am going to send to the DCAicon later on so that people can check this is ok too.

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    they added the PPIicon to the sum and charged you interesticon on it, now I not 100% sure but I thought they could not do that, also was the PPI relevant for your needs?

    also did you get the agreement 7 days before signing for you to consider it

    post up the letter when you get it

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    There are 3 further pages in relation to this loan which I have copies of but which have my ex husband and my names stamped on so would be hard to remove and pdf for all to see.
    In terms of the PPIicon, I have no idea whether it was relevant or not if I'm honest we didn't use it and I would need to find if I have any of the original documents but I don't think I do.
    I am not sure if we had the agreement 7 days before signing as it was back in 2005 and I really don't remember.
    Thanks for your help so far.


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Is this the correct letter to send to the DCAicon?
    Wasn't sure if it was appropriate as I haven't disputed the debt yet, is there something else I could write? Sorry I just want to get this right to make them hold off any action yet until I have found out where I stand.
    Thx

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Anyone able to help me with the letter to the DCAicon?


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    its as good as any in the opening gambit, send that and see what they reply with

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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    and is it better than a cca request letter at this point?


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    Default Re: Hi All, Please can you help?

    Yes, lets string em along, if they come back with any proof then we cca them

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