Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


An excellent guide for the layperson in how to use the County Court - a must if you are intending to start a claim.

£19.99 + £1.50 (P&P)




Last Will and Testament Kit


Make a legally valid will without the fuss and expense of a solicitor - includes a full step-by-step guide.

£9.99 + £1.50 (P&P)

BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.

£13.95 + £2.00 (P&P)


Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg. 05783665 in the UK

reg. office:
923 Finchley Road
London
NW11 7PE



+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pabrmu Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    175

    Default Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    Hi All,
    Applied for CCA on 16/10/09 and received the usual letter asking for signatureicon and a further letter to sign and return to them:

    http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o473/pabrmu/MS2.jpg
    It is interesting to note that they say in the last paragraph " I wish to apply for a copy of my M&S Credit Card application form........"
    I have drafted the following reply:
    http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o...brmu/MS3-1.jpg
    I have no doubt that they will continue to prevaricate, so I intend sending them one further letter to the effect that as they have not sent a properly executed CCA, I consider the matter to be in dispute and will not continue any further dialogue or payments until they comply.
    Any comments, you good,good people.
    Pat.


  2. #2
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    Mydogsawestie Informative Mydogsawestie Informative Mydogsawestie Informative Mydogsawestie's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    543

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    Your good at writing letters....should I ever need anything doing I know where to come

    I take it as the 28th October is only a few days away & with more postal strikes planned (3 days next wk?) no sooner have you posted the above letter, hot on its tracks no doubt will be the In Dispute Letter.....to them!!

    I must admit though like you it weird them asking this on a CCA! The only thing I had a letter back requesting a signatureicon like this was on my SARicon request with MBNAicon tho where they even sent the postal order back too (stalling tactics!), I had some postings on my thread at the time saying I didnt need to provide it nor should I have needed to send a proof of identity either like a driv lic / passport.

    So in your case you shouldnt have to either, after all like you said they have been dealing with you at this address for correspondence for a long time now so obviously are the person you say you are, it is merely them avoiding fulfilling this legal request!!!

    CAG NEEDS FUNDS PLEASE DONATE AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE WHERE POSSIBLE
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk....php?go=donate

  3. #3
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pabrmu Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    175

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    Hi Mydogsawestie,
    Thanks for the kind words.
    I cant really take any credit for most of the letter writing as most of it has been cribbed from this site!
    I don't doubt that my "In Dispute" letter will be winging its way very shortly!
    Pat


  4. #4
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    delicarik123 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    201

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    Good luck with it, please post when you receive your next reply and/or your next action as i am in the same boat. Received a letter yesterday requiring my signatureicon and i have sent them a reply to the effect that it is not required and after all they have been dealing with me at this address etc for several years.
    I do think they are stalling, i tend to think that they may well not have an original agreement which is why they are sending these letters?

    Your letters from them are identical to mine! I will keep an eye out for your response, my letter back to them will be posted tomorrow.

    All the best
    D


  5. #5
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pabrmu Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    175

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    After a couple of letters, M & S have now sent what they say is the agreement.
    Needless to say, it is the application form.
    After reading through the form:

    http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o...sc00abac68.jpg

    perhaps the most telling sentence, and probably the one that gives them away is : ONCE YOU HAVE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT, YOU WILL HAVE FOR SHORT TIME A RIGHT TO CANCEL IT. EXACT DETAILS OF HOW YOU CAN DO THIS WILL BE SENT TO YOU BY POST BY THE CREDITOR.
    Surely, this says that this cannot be an agreement as the actual agreement would have to give the exact clause.

    Anyways, I have sent M &S this letter:

    http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o473/pabrmu/ms21.jpg
    Any views?
    Pat


  6. #6
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    IainHL Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Apr 2009
    I am in
    North West England
    Posts
    237

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    As you have said in your letter to them, there are no prescibed terms on what they have sent you. Of course they could be on the reverse of the original piece of paper.

    In the meantime the account is in disputeicon since 04/11/2009. So no more payments, no more interest. Of course that won't stop there being lots of telephone callsicon and other collection activity despite the dispute.


  7. #7
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pabrmu Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    175

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    It continues!
    They have almost repeated their previous letter to me, so I have again responded.
    Can anyone advise what is the liklihood that they would take this to court?
    Has anyone else been taken to court on such an obvious application form?
    http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o473/pabrmu/ms40.jpg
    http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o473/pabrmu/ms41.jpg

    Pat


  8. #8
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    IainHL Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Apr 2009
    I am in
    North West England
    Posts
    237

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    It seems that M&S are very slow to take anyone to court (especially those of us with old Chargecard agreements that they converted to &MORE credit cards). Which doesn't mean that you won't get lots of letters threatening to take you to court, from M&S, Collect Direct (UK) or some of their other DCAs.

    The end of that latest letter from M&S suggests they they consider they have given you their final response (the reference to referral to the fosicon). Did one of their previous letters say it was a final response?


  9. #9
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pabrmu Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    175

    Default Re: Pabrmu vs M & S.More signature required c**p.

    Hi Iain,
    Thanks for the replies.
    This is the first letter that has ended this way, but I think I might hear more after my final letter.
    I will keep you informed.
    Pat.



Browsealoud
Video Tour



Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg.05783665 in the UK reg. office:- 923 Finchley Road London NW11 7PE