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    Hi Paul.
    You may want to look at the Sunday Times to-day.
    These B******* really don't care do they.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnerog View Post
    You may want to look at the Sunday Times to-day.
    These B******* really don't care do they...
    A link to the online version, for those peeps whose funds are limited...

    Royal Bank of Scotland to give huge bonuses - Times Online





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    Default Re: walton v rbos

    and the worst bit is that very few of the "rank and file" bank workers will get any bonus at all......


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    Default Re: walton v rbos

    well what about the struggling tax payers. Its not like they will get any help.

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    and the worst bit is that very few of the "rank and file" bank workers will get any bonus at all......
    Not to mention the ones that have already been fired to make sure the profit/ bonus figures came in.

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    Default Re: walton v rbos

    Quote Originally Posted by The GodMother View Post
    well what about the struggling tax payers. Its not like they will get any help.

    lower level bank workers are also struggling tax payers too.


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    Default Re: walton v rbos

    I know that but i am thinking the ones that dont work for the bank aswell.

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    Sorry, crusade over!

    I have a couple of friends who work for RBSicon who would love to know who's getting all this money.

    One of them earns less than £12k for a 6 day week and extra hours are not paid as overtime, but as time off in lieu midweek. What really gets them is that they never get an easter weekend break because although the bank is closed on Good Friday and Easter Monday, it is open for half a day on the Saturday in between. The ruins any chance of getting away for a break as they can't take flexi-time until Wednesday!

    They frequently point out that a bonus would help this seem less onerous, but they never see one!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyd View Post
    Sorry, crusade over!

    I have a couple of friends who work for RBSicon who would love to know who's getting all this money.

    One of them earns less than £12k for a 6 day week and extra hours are not paid as overtime, but as time off in lieu midweek. What really gets them is that they never get an easter weekend break because although the bank is closed on Good Friday and Easter Monday, it is open for half a day on the Saturday in between. The ruins any chance of getting away for a break as they can't take flexi-time until Wednesday!

    They frequently point out that a bonus would help this seem less onerous, but they never see one!
    Royal Bank of Scotland to pay record bonuses of up to £5m - Times Online

    RBS should be ashamed, but clearly they are NOT!
    Nothing changes, does it?

    Shame on them and shame on our Government...

    AC


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    Default Re: walton v rbos

    Would have been better to let RBSicon fail, they've been allowed to monopolise the market and profiteer from state handouts.

    Wonder how many of this lot in goverment now will be lining their pockets at RBS or Britishland next year

    Can just see the papers in a couple of months, student loans, tote, Royal mint etc being added to RBS portfolio

    Dartford crossing and the channel rail link in Britishlands.

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    this has been covered before, but you cannot let a company so intrinsically connected into the UK's economy fail.

    Apart from their account holders' basic transactions, plus all their direct debits etc, many of our largest corporations bank with RBSicon so there would be total chaos for their payments, income and salaries.

    Then you need to consider that 1 in 2 card transactions whether by Maestro, Visa or Mastercard are handled by RBS systems and technology. Without access to these, the UK would simply grind to a halt.

    As it stands our chancellor has arranged things so that he collects income tax from their thousands of UK employees, he will get 50% tax from most of those receiving bonuses plus tax from the company profits. At the same time as not paying income support and job seekers allowance for those who would have been made unemployed by the bank failing.

    Once the RBS share price hits the magic number and he decides to sell the shares, he'll get his (our) money back plus a substantial amount of growth and remember, unlike us, the Government doesn't pay CGT on its gains.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gezwee View Post
    Would have been better to let RBSicon fail, they've been allowed to monopolise the market and profiteer from state handouts.

    Wonder how many of this lot in goverment now will be lining their pockets at RBS or Britishland next year

    Can just see the papers in a couple of months, student loans, tote, Royal mint etc being added to RBS portfolio

    Dartford crossing and the channel rail link in Britishlands.

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    No doubt about it!

    BBC NEWS | Politics | Government's £16bn sale of assets

    The Gov. has been in the pocket of RBS for years...the securitization of student loans was/is despicable!

    We, the electorate are treated like, fools.

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    No doubt about it!

    BBC NEWS | Politics | Government's £16bn sale of assets

    The Gov. has been in the pocket of RBSicon for years...the securitization of student loans was/is despicable!

    We, the electorate are treated like, fools.

    AC
    That would certainly explain that idiot Lord Myners' actions over Fred Goodwin's pension!


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    That would certainly explain that idiot Lord Myners' actions over Fred Goodwin's pension!
    Exactly!


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    Sorry, crusade over!

    I have a couple of friends who work for RBSicon who would love to know who's getting all this money.

    One of them earns less than £12k for a 6 day week and extra hours are not paid as overtime, but as time off in lieu midweek. What really gets them is that they never get an easter weekend break because although the bank is closed on Good Friday and Easter Monday, it is open for half a day on the Saturday in between. The ruins any chance of getting away for a break as they can't take flexi-time until Wednesday!

    They frequently point out that a bonus would help this seem less onerous, but they never see one!

    Oh thats good.

    Mum earns less and starts work and 6.45 and does not finish till 6 30 monday tuesday friday and saturday 830 finish on a wednesday and thursday which from the 1st Novemebr will be 8.30 finsihes every week nite and does 9.30 to 4.30 on a sunday.

    They are so short staffed she has not had a day off since Novemeber 2007 except for easter sunday christmas day and other forced public holidayicon closures. These do not include bank holidays all for 10K a year.

    Now what would u like me to tell her now she has to move outta the family home due to a divorcee and has been refused a small loan to put down as a diposit on a new place and moving expenses.

    She needed no more that 2k for the lot but got told no go to the council to re house you.

    Waiting on ur respone Ricky.

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    Oh and she does not get time and a half or anything like that for the bank holidaysicon and christmas eve boxing day etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyd View Post
    this has been covered before, but you cannot let a company so intrinsically connected into the UK's economy fail.

    Apart from their account holders' basic transactions, plus all their direct debits etc, many of our largest corporations bank with RBSicon so there would be total chaos for their payments, income and salaries.

    Then you need to consider that 1 in 2 card transactions whether by Maestro, Visa or Mastercard are handled by RBS systems and technology. Without access to these, the UK would simply grind to a halt.

    As it stands our chancellor has arranged things so that he collects income tax from their thousands of UK employees, he will get 50% tax from most of those receiving bonuses plus tax from the company profits. At the same time as not paying income support and job seekers allowance for those who would have been made unemployed by the bank failing.

    Once the RBS share price hits the magic number and he decides to sell the shares, he'll get his (our) money back plus a substantial amount of growth and remember, unlike us, the Government doesn't pay CGT on its gains.
    Sorry RDicon, I'm not won over on this argument....... if RBS are/were so intrinsic to day to day living of such a large proportion of the economy then they should have been broken up the moment taxpayers money invested in their recovery.

    Still see no reason why they should not have been allowed to fail in their previous and now current guise.

    What possible reason could this government have for sustaining a single monopolising corporation within the UK economy...... oh yeah, cos they'll all be needing friends and jobs next year


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    Quote Originally Posted by The GodMother View Post
    Oh thats good.

    Mum earns less and starts work and 6.45 and does not finish till 6 30 monday tuesday friday and saturday 830 finish on a wednesday and thursday which from the 1st Novemebr will be 8.30 finsihes every week nite and does 9.30 to 4.30 on a sunday.

    They are so short staffed she has not had a day off since Novemeber 2007 except for easter sunday christmas day and other forced public holidayicon closures. These do not include bank holidays all for 10K a year.

    Now what would u like me to tell her now she has to move outta the family home due to a divorcee and has been refused a small loan to put down as a diposit on a new place and moving expenses.

    She needed no more that 2k for the lot but got told no go to the council to re house you.

    Waiting on ur respone Ricky.
    I don't know what your mum does but it looks like her employers are in breach of the European Working Time Directives on both hours and holidays.

    I can't comment on divorceicon nor on loans but I do know my pal has a business degree and works damned hard trying to raise a young family. He was promised fairly rapid promotion which is why he left his previous job and he never gets paid overtime at any rate let alone time and a half.

    I'm sorry for your mum's situation. I really am, but I didn't raise this to get into a competition for who works hardest/gets paid least. I wanted to expose the hypocrisy of a company that pays graduates with highly responsible jobs less than bin men (in Glasgow at least) whilst handing out massive bonuses to city boys who I'm fairly certain will work less hours.

    The problem my pal now faces is that he needs to find a better job where the recruiter won't see having worked at RBSicon on his CV as a sign of bad judgement on his part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gezwee View Post
    Sorry RDicon, I'm not won over on this argument....... if RBSicon are/were so intrinsic to day to day living of such a large proportion of the economy then they should have been broken up the moment taxpayers money invested in their recovery. Why?

    Still see no reason why they should not have been allowed to fail in their previous and now current guise. - for the financial reasons I gave earlier

    What possible reason could this government have for sustaining a single monopolising corporation within the UK economy...... oh yeah, cos they'll all be needing friends and jobs next year
    There's probably some truth in this, but none of the big parties would have acted any differently.

    Imagine going to your favourite supermarket to find you can't use your card as their systems use "streamline" so have you got cash? You go to the cash machine outside Tesco/ASDA and find its turned off (cos its an RBS machine). Then Scottish Gas can't collect your D/D this month because they bank with RBS so you'll need to send a cheque etc etc.

    Trust me I've looked at this scenario and its a non-starter that's why they could steal the crown jewels and still be in business.



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