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    Default Barclaycard. Why they dont send CCA's?

    I requested copies of CCA's for various Barclaycards (Morgan Stanley and Goldfish) some 5 months ago, and to date have only received T&Cs.
    From reading other threads I see that this is quite normal.
    My question is, why are they refusing to send out copies of CCA's?
    Is it because they dont have them, or they know they are unenforceable, or they just want to keep them until their day in court?

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    Default Re: Barclaycard. Why they dont send CCA's?

    Hi Basil,

    It is wrong to assume that, just because they don't produce them, BC and others don't have agreements. In user Bones case they do, and produced it after fosicon intervention - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ml#post2489727

    We have seen many cases where the documents supplied do NOT constitute enforceable agreements.

    But we've seen cases where the agreements ARE enforceable.

    They are trying to keep their cards very close to their chests, and would rather not show them.

    If you have the patience and are not satisfied with the T&C's sent to you, complain to the FOS - it costs you nowt.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclaycard. Why they dont send CCA's?

    Thanks slick. I'm receiving letters and phone callsicon from Mercers now, so I'm going to fire off a ''reminder'' letter to Mercers stating that the accounts are in dispute, though I realise that this will achieve nothing. I will complain to the fosicon, though I also see that this will take a long time.
    In the long run, I'm going to basically ignore them and let them take me to court, where they'll have to produce the agreements. In the meantime, I will send them fairly regular ''requests/reminders'' to produce the agreement, for the purpose of showing the judge that I tried hard to see them.
    I'm not bothered about my credit record because I intend living the rest of my life without it, so I suppose the worst that can happen is that I get CCJ's and end up on a payment plan, though I'm a homeowner (joint), and that does worry me a bit.

    What do you think of this strategy?

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    Default Re: Barclaycard. Why they dont send CCA's?

    If you have the time to wait and you're not so concerned about your credit record, I agree this is a good strategy.

    Wait for the fosicon to help, wait for BC to take court action, whatever.

    I think this is more sensible than running around like a headless chicken, firing off letters every day or so, trying every avenue available ............. but getting nowhere fast !!

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclaycard. Why they dont send CCA's?

    Tks again slick.

    One question though. I presume they will still add interesticon and late fees as I stopped paying anything when I sent the Account in Dispute letter? As it will take some time before getting to the end, this could be a substantial sum of money added to these accounts. If they, in the end, produce an enforceable agreement, and I end up paying them, will this extra interest and late fees be allowed to stay on the account, considering that the Account in Dispute letter states that they shouldnt be adding interest or charges. (does this also apply if debt is sold on to DCAicon - can they keep adding interest indefinitely?)?

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    Default Re: Barclaycard. Why they dont send CCA's?

    Hi Basil,

    Even if they produced a Bullet-Proof credit agreement, their penalty charges are unlawful and you should have these repaid in full with interesticon.

    If the a/c is terminated, interest stops then, whether the account is sold on or not.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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