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BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

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    Can somebody please help me?
    I have been an o2icon customer for 10 years now and in March i was due an upgrade so i can rang O2 and spoke to the retentions team as i had asked for my pact code. I was offered a couple of deals one of which i took the other being quite tempting however slightly more expensive. I was told i could change my mind within 14 days and if i wasnt happy the advisor would put all the details of teh second option offered on teh system so i could changeteh deal. I was not happy with the phone that came and so sent that back to take up the offer of teh second deal being teh iphone deal. I was told there was no such offer since then i have called a number of times spoken o quite a few advisors and asked for manager call backs none of which happened. I then wrote to the complaints department on the 7th of September outlining teh problems and what i think the company can do to resolve I had no answer from them so i called teh complaints department and spoke to someone on Thursday who said he would get teh case assigned to him and he would call me back on Friday. No call recieved on Friday so i called again asking to speak to teh manager i was told i will get a call back within 24 hours. once again no call recived. I then called up again asking t speak to teh advisor or teh manager and once again i have been given the timescale of 24 hours. Please can someone help me is theer anyway i can get this complaint escalated as i am getting no joy from o2 at all.


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    As an upgrade, you do NOT get '14 days' to change your mind unless this is a specific part of the offer. As you didn;t accept the PAC and stayed with the network, your contract has been renewed. Because they have got what they want (you tied in for a new minimum term) you'll find they are not to keen to assist you.

    It is time to move into WRITING, as if you are forved to take them to court to repudiate the contract, you'll need a viable paper trail.


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    Thankyou for the reply i was told a number of times by the advisor that i had a 14 day cooling off perod. I have written to the customer relations department and have also emailed the chief executive. see what happens.


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    Did you record the call? Unfortunatwly, promises like these often disappear into the air when challenged and leaves the customer in the position of it's ytour word against theirs, and since they will be the arbiter (unless you have other proof) you can be wrung out to dry!


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    DSR does come into play for this situation. There is a cooling off period of 7 working days (day 1 being the day AFTER the goods are received) to reject the goods for any reason.

    To be informed of a 14 day cooling off period would be incorrect, but a 7 working day period would be correct.


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    Quote Originally Posted by jacktheband View Post
    DSR does come into play for this situation..
    Afraid it doesn't.

    The OP states that as an existing customer of o2icon he chose to upgrade his handset. This is a pre-existing commitment and takes precedence over DSR as the upgrade is conditional on the new contract being entered into. This is why it is important that corroboration of any claim of variance is verifiable. If there was no pre-existing contract, and this was a new contract for the purchaser, DSR would be relevant.


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    I have an ongoing dispute with o2icon, to cut it short they told me the cooling off period for any reason to return handset was 14 days, then the store blanked me and told me they were in the business of selling phones, not returning them.


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    when i wanted to leave vodafoneicon in may, they offered me a trial of a phone for 14 days to see if I liked it, I didnt , sent phone back and got the iphone, so it does and can happen that you get 14 days to try a new phone.

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    As you can see from the above, the networks pretty much make it up as they go along. What is of primary importance is that you do not get fooled or coerced into a contract when you do not need one, either by stories that you'll have some fictional cooling odd period. There IS one, but only in certain circumstances. Lula's example (of a trial phone) is innovative, but certainly not the industry norm, who simply want signed contracts.

    My personal view? Phone contracts are for mugs. It smacks of the 'kings shilling' ploy of the old seafaring days where you were given a puny reward, but committed to something that worked against you. There is a pretty big quid-pro-quo for a 'free' phone that will be out of date a YEAER before you minimum term is reached, and as you've no idea what your personal circumstances will be next week never mind next month, committing yourself for SERIOUS consequences should something go wrong down the line, is just an accident waiting to happen. If you need a phone, buy PAYG. If you want to make a fashion statement, get one with NO contract. You can sleep easy, and not be the puppet of some foreign conglomerate (vodafoneicon excepted).


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    DSR would be enforce here, as she's taken her goods over the phone without seeing them (o2icon do operate this way by the way, all their calls are recorded and kept for 12 months and they do offer a cool off periods on upgrades) I would suggest actioning a complaint in writing and also doing a SARicon.


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    Default Re: O2 Complaint Help

    Read message # 6 DSR won't apply - it is disallowed due to a pre-existing contract existing. It cannot vary contract law - ONLY if it was a new connection (not an upgrade).



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