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    Hi,
    This is the story so far. I have requested a full SARicon (letter courtesy of PF) on the 24th August to start a claim for PPIicon and enclosed £10 cheque for the fee. Today have received letter from HFC:

    We received correspondence from you regarding a Subject access requesticon.
    The relevant form was sent out for you to complete which included a request for a £10.00 fee, if not already forwarded with your original correspondence. To comply with Data Protection Act requirements, a form of identification was also requested.
    We cannot start to collect this information without receiving all of the above.
    To date we have not received your identification. Could you please forward this as soon as possible so we can start to collect your information.
    Should you require any further information, please contact me on *********, and I will be happy to assist you.

    We phoned the number and spoke to a woman there,she wanted OH to take driving licence to a bank and get the manager to verify identity??
    Has any one else had this problem with SAR? We have never received any form that she mentions either,it was a simple enough request. They have been happy to send statements to this address for years..
    Shirei


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    Quote Originally Posted by shirei12 View Post
    Hi,
    This is the story so far. I have requested a full SARicon (letter courtesy of PF) on the 24th August to start a claim for PPIicon and enclosed £10 cheque for the fee. Today have received letter from HFC:

    We received correspondence from you regarding a Subject access requesticon.
    The relevant form was sent out for you to complete which included a request for a £10.00 fee, if not already forwarded with your original correspondence. To comply with Data Protection Act requirements, a form of identification was also requested.
    We cannot start to collect this information without receiving all of the above.
    To date we have not received your identification. Could you please forward this as soon as possible so we can start to collect your information.
    Should you require any further information, please contact me on *********, and I will be happy to assist you.

    We phoned the number and spoke to a woman there,she wanted OH to take driving licence to a bank and get the manager to verify identity??
    Has any one else had this problem with SAR? We have never received any form that she mentions either,it was a simple enough request. They have been happy to send statements to this address for years..
    Shirei
    I have had the same trouble with HSBCicon you can provide them with identification at the local branch but kick up a stink if they decide they want photocopies as a lot of private data has been lost such as passport information and other identification provided to banks.

    If they want to photocopy insist on a written data protection undertaking, stating they will provide full protection of the photocopied documents within the bounds of the Data Protection Act 1998. Insist that they list the documents they want to photocopy and obtain receipts for the copied documents. That should make them take note.

    Start to play them at their own game they want proof then provide the protection of the proof.

    aa

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    Bank charge successes:
    Halifax - Full settlement incl interest.
    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
    RBS - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 70% of claim.
    2 ongoing claims for bank charges with HSBC with more to come. (Supreme Court ruling could have upset these claims) They did
    PPI Successes
    PPI 4 settlements on 9 loans. FOS involvement on 7 added on the 8 % Statutory interest another 30% to both.
    2 claims settled in full with LV without FOS involvement.
    2 claims settled in full with HSBC without FOS involvement

    PPI Claims ongoing with:
    Cap one Now with the FOS
    Barclays. Paid up today 24/04/10 cheque received for over £4,500 and in the bank.
    LTSB still have to decide on this as their SAR production was abysmal. Papers data mixed up documents missing etc

    1 Complaint not upheld by FOS they said it was ICO issue. Complaint upheld by ICO. See this..
    Post 290 from
    ***RBS PPI Claim Long fight but, WON***

    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Thanks for that information aa,will do.


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    Another cagger had the same problem with HFC recently.
    Try this change to suit if it fits the circumstances:

    I am in receipt of your letter concerning the Subject access requesticon, under the Data Protection Act 1998, sent to you on 24 August 2009 by recorded delivery and I sent you a payment of £10.00 which you cashed. I requested all of the information that you hold on your files about my account. I would remind you that you must supply the information requested within the time allowed of 40 calendar days and your delaying tactics do not stop the clock ticking.

    I do not accept that you are in any doubt about my identity as you are sending regular correspondence to me at my known address. Under Data Protection rules, only if you have good cause to doubt the requester’s identity should you ask them to provide any evidence you reasonably need to confirm it.


    Please supply the information within the time allowed and if you fail to do so within that timescale treat this letter as a formal complaint. Should this happen I will also require a copy of your formal complaints procedure.

    Blah Blah Blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanalana View Post
    I have had the same trouble with HSBCicon you can provide them with identification at the local branch but kick up a stink if they decide they want photocopies as a lot of private data has been lost such as passport information and other identification provided to banks.

    If they want to photocopy insist on a written data protection undertaking, stating they will provide full protection of the photocopied documents within the bounds of the Data Protection Act 1998. Insist that they list the documents they want to photocopy and obtain receipts for the copied documents. That should make them take note.

    Start to play them at their own game they want proof then provide the protection of the proof.

    aa
    I have done this and I have had no reply and they haven't cashed the £10 cheque. the 40 days are up on 6th October,what then??


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    Well 40 days up tomorrow and nothing from HFC. I have sent ID in the form of copy driving licence and no acknowledgement. Any suggestions where to go from here? Can I report them to anyone for not complying with my SARicon?


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    I think I will send lbaicon giving them 7 days further,then slap a court order on them


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    Update:
    I have today had a letter from HFC apologising for delay and SARicon should be with us on the 14th Nov. We will see
    In the meantime I sent off CCA request for two agreements. I have had a response for one.It is a blank application form .
    The thing is,it was taken out in 1998 with no PPIicon and no Life Ins. I have the original agreement still to prove this. Yet we have been paying Hamilton Ins. monthly premiums for 11 years, and the policy number has changed three times
    We have been in touch with Hamiltons and requested the policy.They were very prompt in sending wording of policy but this didnt satisfy our request,so we phoned them again today and they told us that the schedule was never sent to them so they have no idea which agreement it relates to,just that it has been running since 1998,which they felt was strange also. It seems that HFC have added this on their own behalf and we like Mugs have been paying for it all this time.
    Can anyone suggest a way to deal with this???

    Shirei


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    Default Re: HFC do they need identification for SAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by shirei12 View Post
    Update:
    I have today had a letter from HFC apologising for delay and SARicon should be with us on the 14th Nov. We will see
    In the meantime I sent off CCA request for two agreements. I have had a response for one.It is a blank application form .
    The thing is,it was taken out in 1998 with no PPIicon and no Life Ins. I have the original agreement still to prove this. Yet we have been paying Hamilton Ins. monthly premiums for 11 years, and the policy number has changed three times
    We have been in touch with Hamiltons and requested the policy.They were very prompt in sending wording of policy but this didnt satisfy our request,so we phoned them again today and they told us that the schedule was never sent to them so they have no idea which agreement it relates to,just that it has been running since 1998,which they felt was strange also. It seems that HFC have added this on their own behalf and we like Mugs have been paying for it all this time.
    Can anyone suggest a way to deal with this???

    Shirei

    IMO give them until the 14th of November and then

    bang in complaints to the Financial Ombudsmanicon Service to ask for your money back, and also

    complain to the Financial Services Authority ( These are the people that dish out the fines up to £7m ) HFC have already been fined. See this link for more...http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Library/...2008/004.shtml

    aa



    Also do not forget to copy your complaints to:

    The Office of Fair Trading
    Trading standards
    Information Commissioners Office
    Competition Commissioners Office

    The regulatory bodies need to know the extent of PPI mis-selling and deal with it.

    aa

    I have no legal training and the advice I offer is a matter of support. Before you commit to any Legal action you are advised to contact a qualified legal practitioner.
    ------------------------------------------------
    Bank charge successes:
    Halifax - Full settlement incl interest.
    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
    RBS - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 70% of claim.
    2 ongoing claims for bank charges with HSBC with more to come. (Supreme Court ruling could have upset these claims) They did
    PPI Successes
    PPI 4 settlements on 9 loans. FOS involvement on 7 added on the 8 % Statutory interest another 30% to both.
    2 claims settled in full with LV without FOS involvement.
    2 claims settled in full with HSBC without FOS involvement

    PPI Claims ongoing with:
    Cap one Now with the FOS
    Barclays. Paid up today 24/04/10 cheque received for over £4,500 and in the bank.
    LTSB still have to decide on this as their SAR production was abysmal. Papers data mixed up documents missing etc

    1 Complaint not upheld by FOS they said it was ICO issue. Complaint upheld by ICO. See this..
    Post 290 from
    ***RBS PPI Claim Long fight but, WON***

    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Thanks aa,
    Do you think I should write to HFC first asking which agreement it relates to? (As suggested by Hamiltons) I know it is the one I have just received what they call a CCA for as it was taken out in 1998 and this is how long we have been paying life Ins. to Hamiltons for.
    Thought it would be better to have it in writing fron HFC .

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirei12 View Post
    Thanks aa,
    Do you think I should write to HFC first asking which agreement it relates to? (As suggested by Hamiltons) I know it is the one I have just received what they call a CCA for as it was taken out in 1998 and this is how long we have been paying life Ins. to Hamiltons for.
    Thought it would be better to have it in writing fron HFC .

    Regards

    Shirei
    It seems they are playing one off against the other. Just to make them sit up and take notice and to save you time send every letter to both and show on the bottom of the letters that you are sending copies to the Information Commissioners Office to keep them informed of the lack of response by both to your complaints.

    I am a great believer in telling the universe about the extent of PPIicon mis-selling.
    Write lots of letters copy to all of the statutory bodies ICO, FSA, fosicon, BBA and OFT. ( As mentioned in an earlier post)
    Keep copies of all of the letters.
    Mark them with a header so you can keep them in order.

    It is very important that HFC get the message of your intent to get your PPI back.

    Remember they have already been fined by the FSA for mis-selling. Make sure they get the message loud and clear from you I am sure they would not like another fine from the FSA if it can be shown the mis-selling was much wider than originally thought.

    aa

    I have no legal training and the advice I offer is a matter of support. Before you commit to any Legal action you are advised to contact a qualified legal practitioner.
    ------------------------------------------------
    Bank charge successes:
    Halifax - Full settlement incl interest.
    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
    RBS - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 70% of claim.
    2 ongoing claims for bank charges with HSBC with more to come. (Supreme Court ruling could have upset these claims) They did
    PPI Successes
    PPI 4 settlements on 9 loans. FOS involvement on 7 added on the 8 % Statutory interest another 30% to both.
    2 claims settled in full with LV without FOS involvement.
    2 claims settled in full with HSBC without FOS involvement

    PPI Claims ongoing with:
    Cap one Now with the FOS
    Barclays. Paid up today 24/04/10 cheque received for over £4,500 and in the bank.
    LTSB still have to decide on this as their SAR production was abysmal. Papers data mixed up documents missing etc

    1 Complaint not upheld by FOS they said it was ICO issue. Complaint upheld by ICO. See this..
    Post 290 from
    ***RBS PPI Claim Long fight but, WON***

    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.


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