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    Default Barclay Card SAR Response - No Credit Agreement

    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts on this; I have already started, using a CP31.16 on Barclaysicon to get my orginial Credit Agreement (Which was a former Morgan Stanley). As they are dragging their feet I decided to sent them a SARicon as well.

    I had a response from them including two accounts, one old closed account and the current account that was the former MS. My issue is that they have only sent copies of the statements, no Credit Agreement or any digital phone logs etc...

    Now, they stated on the letter that this is all they hold?????
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    Do you think this is enough to use as amunition to stop paying and remove the account from my Credit File. Account is currently being paid and is not with a DCAicon, but if I stop paying I expect barclays to hand it off as they do, all I'm interested in doing is making sure that I can keep them from processing data on my credit file...

    Any thoughts? I'm still waiting for the response to eh CP31.16, I suspect their digging in the garden looking for my original CA from MS..

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    Default Re: Barclay Card SAR Response - No Credit Agreement

    Hi JJ,

    You would be better placed to stop paying on the a/c after they fail to produce the credit agreement in response to a CCA request.

    Use Letter N from here and send with the £1 fee - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...templates.html

    However, they WON'T accept the a/c is in dispute and WILL pursue collection on the a/c, including using Mercers who will send you a default notice (even though it's usually invalid).

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Barclay Card SAR Response - No Credit Agreement

    Hi Slick,

    Thanks for the reply, the reason I haven't put the account in dispute is becuase of Barclaysicon stance on the whole CCA repsonse thing, and in fact they are right that they don't have to produce the original. That's why I have used the CP31.16 route to actually get it, I am still awaiting their response on this, but I thought the SARicon should produce all relevant documents that they have? I am going to to chase them on the CP31.16 route again and then follow through with a court order if neccessary to get it before I stop paying.


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    Default Re: Barclay Card SAR Response - No Credit Agreement

    Hi JJ,

    From your reply, I assume you are maintaining payments to avoid getting any Default against you.

    And you will only stop paying when you can show that they've failed to produce an enforceable agreement.

    That is, of course, your prerogative and perhaps wise in view of the trouble users have in getting any Default removed.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
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    Default Re: Barclay Card SAR Response - No Credit Agreement

    Hi Slick,

    Yes that was exactly my approach, but I am still interested on anyones thoughts around the SARicon results, if BC state this is all they hold, and dont supply my Signed CA what is my best route, not pay and challenge that there is no agreement, or keep trying with the CP31.16?

    One thing I have noticed them doing, is reducing my credit limit down evertime there is room for credit,,,, mmm are they concerned my account might not be enforceable??...

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    Default Re: Barclay Card SAR Response - No Credit Agreement

    It's only logical that they're reducing the a/c balance when you are questioning it's enforceability.

    Perhaps the CPR 31.16 route is the way to go. They'll refuse to show the agreement and you WILL have to make an N244icon Application if you want this to succeed.

    So don't bother with the CPR letters unless you're prepared to follow up with court action.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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