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    Default Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Hi, I'm currently looking to claim Payment Protection Insurance back from Paragon Personal Finance. They sold me PPIicon on a loan I took out in 1996. I made 41 payments before cancelling it.

    However, I would like to reclaim the outstanding payments that I made, go towards paying off the remaining balance.

    I have been reading however about cases that are older than 6 yearsicon have less chance of succeeding and also the company had to be registered with the FSA at the time of the PPI selling to enable the consumer to go the fosicon.

    I would appreciate advice on the best course of action on how to tackle this. I am currently paying them £10 per month and the interesticon is still been taken which is currently £16.97!! Basically paying good money after bad!!!

    Many thanks for advice in advance.


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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Hiya Nutter,

    Do you still have the agreement if so can you post it up removing personal details.

    Once ive seen the dates and figures i can offer more direct help to you.

    If you dont have it let us know and ill give you instructions on how to get it.

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Hi,

    I've got the original agreement, will scan in and post on here tomorrow.

    How do I use photobucket to upload it though?

    thanks


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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Explains all here

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Thanks for the help.

    Have scanned the two pages of the agreement in the links below:

    http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...mentfron-1.gif

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    I've only removed personal details, so everything is on there.


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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Nutter sorry to be a pain but i cant make out the figures can you sign back in to your photobucket account go to those docs and copy and paste the IMG CODE ino this thread.

    Ill come back in a while.

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Right Nutter,

    Oh i hate using that word .

    Right nutter i think this is going to be a difficult one due to the date the loan was taken out and the fact paragon are likely to fob you off saying it is nothing to do with them.

    The only way i see forward is though a court claim. go for the jugular so to say.

    I would suggest at this point you have a good read of other paragon threads on this site and having a good read of the sticky information at the top.

    So to that end read up decide if this is what you want to do if it is come back and ill help you with a claim.

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Will look through the forums, have obtained documents without telling them what I'm planning. That way, they won't get difficult.

    Thank you very much for your advice and will seek it further in the future when I start the actual claim itself.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Nutter,

    You are welcome i would of liked to of said this gona be easy but sadly that is not the case, but as i have said it is doable but the best option is though a court claim as paragon will put up a fight any other way.

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    have obtained all information under a SARicon and there doesn't seem to be much there at all really about out the loan. Just the original agreement as above, a snapshot from the computer on the application and the rest is just transcripts of telephone callsicon regarding the arrears that we have built up. still half a foot think parcel cost them serious money

    My first question would be: should there be more about the PPIicon such as an assessment on whether it was actually required or was acutally sold without pressure?

    If so, how do I go about obtaining the necessary data for this?

    Any help will be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    I have a very similar claim to yours - my claim goes back to 1995. I have involved the FLA on this one as unable to take it to fosicon. With the intervention of the FLA I received a very quick response from Paragon albeit to say that it should be Midland and General that I approach. My paperwork is very much the same as yours with Universal Credit at the top but also with Midland and General on the heading as well.

    I have now written to Midland and General (with a copy to FLA) and awaiting a reply.

    My efforts to get Paragon to respond before involving the FLA hit a brick wall with them not even replying to my letters etc. so if I was you I might think about involving them - they cant make the company pay you but they can negotiate and make recommendations to the company. Its worth a try! They can also advise you on the best way forward if the company refuses to play ball.

    I hope this info helps a little - I'm not an expert but sometimes other peoples experiences help others.

    Good luck and keep us posted as I will do with mine.

    GE MONEY - DEBENHAMS CARD
    Settled in full after prelim

    MBNA
    Settled after LBA
    however mistake made by me on contractual interest so going after the rest now
    SETTLED IN FULL JAN 2007

    MINT
    Offer after prelim rejected
    Settled in full after LBA


    to go:
    Barclays Bus Ac - to mcol
    Barclays CC - to mcol
    Nat West (over 6 years) no action taken yet
    Creation Financial - awaiting statements since Dec
    Goldfish - offer after prelim rejected
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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Have written to Paragon about this using a standard letter confirming why I think the PPIicon was missold and they have said its to do with Midland and General. They also state that as the policy was taken out more than six years ago, any allegation of mis-selling would be statute barred under the limitation acticon 1980. Are they right about this?

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    Do take accept what they say - its the same old fob off.
    I wrote to Midland and General as they said I should and received a letter back from GE Money, they must have taken over Midland and General. GE Money have replied saying that as it was 11 years ago it would be too difficult for them to investigate my complaint now!

    I am now going to contact the fosicon and ask their opinion, GE have said I should refer my concerns to the FLA (waste of time in my opinion, and I am sure they know it will be too).

    I have another complaint about GE Money (a Debenhams card) that I held from 2000 and had the same old fob off - contacted the FOS telling them that GE money had said I wouldnt be able to take it to the FOS - to which the response was they believed they could.

    So do not take anything they say as gospel - they are deliberately mis-leading people into believing they have no further action they can take. I am not giving up with this bunch of ..........s. They have been deliberately obstructive from the beginning and if it means taking them to court I wont hesitate after the bull...t they have given me.

    Keep at it and good luck - will follow with interesticon.

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    MBNA
    Settled after LBA
    however mistake made by me on contractual interest so going after the rest now
    SETTLED IN FULL JAN 2007

    MINT
    Offer after prelim rejected
    Settled in full after LBA


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    Barclays CC - to mcol
    Nat West (over 6 years) no action taken yet
    Creation Financial - awaiting statements since Dec
    Goldfish - offer after prelim rejected
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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Shall I now write to Midland and General to claim the PPIicon misselling off them now? usual standard letter see what they say and then if no joy off to fosicon?

    Thanks for the info tink. by my calculations the ppi with interesticon at paragons interest rate is about 16k which is more than the loan itself! would i be able to claim the interest at paragons interest rate off midland and general?

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    Yes, write to Midland and General claiming the PPIicon mis-selling off them. You will probably receive a reply from GE Money with a fob off. This is the stage that I am at now. I am going to contact the fosicon asking if they will consider this complaint now and will post on here what they say.

    I think the question of interesticon is a little confusing at the moment. If the ppi was front loaded ie the total ppi amount added on to the loan from the beginning I think you will only be able to claim 8% simple interest on the premiums paid. Not to sure about claiming their interest rate if it was not front loaded perhaps someone else would be able to give you some advise on that.

    At the moment several of us are querying the FOS guidelines on redress on ppi on credit cards as we feel that the interest should be compounded at their contractual rate, however the FOS do not seem to be taking this on board at the moment.

    I wish you luck and hope that I have been of some help - I am not an expert but others sharing their experiences can only help.

    All the best Tink

    GE MONEY - DEBENHAMS CARD
    Settled in full after prelim

    MBNA
    Settled after LBA
    however mistake made by me on contractual interest so going after the rest now
    SETTLED IN FULL JAN 2007

    MINT
    Offer after prelim rejected
    Settled in full after LBA


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    Barclays Bus Ac - to mcol
    Barclays CC - to mcol
    Nat West (over 6 years) no action taken yet
    Creation Financial - awaiting statements since Dec
    Goldfish - offer after prelim rejected
    and some more

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    Default Re: Nutter vs Paragon PPI reclaiming

    Quote Originally Posted by TINK660 View Post
    Yes, write to Midland and General claiming the PPIicon mis-selling off them. You will probably receive a reply from GE Money with a fob off. This is the stage that I am at now. I am going to contact the fosicon asking if they will consider this complaint now and will post on here what they say.

    I think the question of interesticon is a little confusing at the moment. If the ppi was front loaded ie the total ppi amount added on to the loan from the beginning I think you will only be able to claim 8% simple interest on the premiums paid. Not to sure about claiming their interest rate if it was not front loaded perhaps someone else would be able to give you some advise on that.

    At the moment several of us are querying the FOS guidelines on redress on ppi on credit cards as we feel that the interest should be compounded at their contractual rate, however the FOS do not seem to be taking this on board at the moment.

    I wish you luck and hope that I have been of some help - I am not an expert but others sharing their experiences can only help.

    All the best Tink

    Follow Tink the advice is good. Do not let them fob you off with false information. Keep at them. Keep up the pressure and use the Statutory bodies to get a result. Also bang in complaints to the ICO, FSA, OFT if you feel you are not getting a fair hearing.

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    HSBC - Settlement, goodwill no admission of liability about 75% of claim.
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    1 Complaint not upheld by FOS they said it was ICO issue. Complaint upheld by ICO. See this..
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    Please do not PM me for advice as it may be sometime before I can respond.

    Keep at them. Do not give way and do not accept all they tell you, they will delay and stall for as long as they can to prevent repaying you your mis-sold PPI.

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    Hi, have written to GE Money, first said they couldnt locate account.

    Provided info, got a letter basically saying 13 years is too long, go away. unable to find records! advised me to go to Finance and leasing, but would be glad to hear how tink is getting on with the fosicon and their willingness to look into these matters.

    Shall I send a SARicon see what they have? or just complain straight away to the ombudsman?

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