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    Default Charging a DCA

    Thought id mention this idea to see what others CAGGERS think.
    The idea of everyone of us applying a charge to a DCAicon for everytime they contact us either by letter or phone.
    If we all agree its a good idea, then we can decide on the level of charge & how to apply it etc...


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    We need to be careful about this.... If we all apply the same charge we could be accused of breaching monopoly regulations.

    We need to give the DCAs choice in which of us they want to pester. I'm in favour of a free for all charge system.

    I think we should have a button on the phone that we can press to electrocute them every time they lie.


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Hi Kurva,

    Have you seriously considered the consequences of your suggestion?


















    The electricity bill would be HUGE!!!

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    The electricity bill would be HUGE!!!


    Ok.... back to the drawing board



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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    You need help with the wiring?


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    I was thinking some kind of transformer or something but I'm a bit confused now. Just need some way to apply the charge.


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    I just thought why not use some form of hamster wheel type of generator so they can supply their own electricity.

    If we only want to frighten them we could use a Van de Graff generator

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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Van de Graff..........that brings back memories.

    How about converting DCAicon hot air into a charge?


    If we only want to frighten them we could use a Van de Graff generator
    It needs to hurt I think


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.ton View Post
    Thought id mention this idea to see what others CAGGERS think.
    The idea of everyone of us applying a charge to a DCAicon for everytime they contact us either by letter or phone.
    If we all agree its a good idea, then we can decide on the level of charge & how to apply it etc...
    Mr Ton, something i wholeheatedly agree with (i do it all the time)

    i do not have the details but i know in the 80's a bank customer was charged 20 time every time the bank wrote to him about his arrears, in return he charged 10 pounds every time he replied

    when he won his case against them the judge upheld his charges and i remember that his comments were

    what's good for the goose is good for the gander

    It is entirely reasonable in my opinion, to charge an amount every time you have to write to them in a dispute say 7.00 to cover your expenses and time.

    I believe that in the event you get to court the judge would offset your charges against theirs if they win and award you them if you lose

    not sure about phone callsicon though- especially since most caggers say they will not engage on the phone

    at the very least 1000 caggers sending 7 quid invoices in every week would cause them huge logistical problems. and in my opinion is a VERY good form of protest which i already employ myself


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    With success?


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Do you think it might be useful to ask OFT what a reasonable charge would be - after all we do not want the banks come back to us for unfair charges in the future.


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Quote Originally Posted by kurvaface View Post
    With success?
    well im not at the court stage with any of them at the moment so just as they keep piling up 12 quid fees whilst in default so i pile up letter fees and i try to make sure that every letter i send is reminding them or drawing their attention to legislation that they should already know and be abiding by

    that way the court can see that i should not have to finance thier training in what they should already know

    if and when i get to court stage (and it's looking right now that out of 8 cards NONE will get that far

    the ONLY card that appeared to be based on a legitimate agreement

    having checked their record on defective DN's on this site i took the gamble to sit back and wait and, hey presto faulty DN followed by termination

    I am on course for 8 out of 8 at the moment in which case i am more than happy to write off my letter fee losses


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    ps

    if you get a card saying XXXX will call on a certain date- please let us know if this is not convenient

    well if they dont turn up charge them for a full day of your time waiting for them to arrive for this oh so important meeting


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    no, let them challenge us if they think the charge is too much

    be very interesting to see them suggest it should be lower than 7 quid whilst they are charging 12 quid wouldnt you say?


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    this has been hammered out i another thread

    you need to offer them "a service" in return for charging them.....one member wrote a letter offering his services for "staff training" and if they kept writing to him,they would have been deemed to have accepted the contract....and they did,so he billed them

    apparently you just can't arbitrarily charge a sum for nothing


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    That thread was cool. Where is it?


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    so whats good for the goose.................... ........


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Quote Originally Posted by lickthewallfatboy View Post
    this has been hammered out i another thread

    you need to offer them "a service" in return for charging them.....one member wrote a letter offering his services for "staff training" and if they kept writing to him,they would have been deemed to have accepted the contract....and they did,so he billed them

    apparently you just can't arbitrarily charge a sum for nothing
    No you don't need to offer them a service, nor do you need their permission

    the charge you are making is to cover your costs of hardware, software stationery postage and you time in having to respond

    in most of these cases they have intruded into your personal time and expense on the back of faulty agreements and lack of or disregard of the law which you have to take time to advise /correct them on
    and which they should have known themselves

    it is therefore perfectly reasonable to charge for this expense and time

    i even deducted the cost of the truecallicon device (120 quid) from one card company;s monthly payment n when they ignored my first letter to stop telephoning me 5 times a day (and they have not questioned it)

    EVEN IF

    you were to be right. you miss an important point - the suggestion made by Mr Ton was really about dishing out to the OC's and DCAicon's some of the aggravation that they dish out and see how they like it

    let them go to the expense of having to record and/or respond to all these invoices and if they are found to be illegal we just do what they do and forget them


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    I have actually started to charge £12 per letter to DCAicon's that chase me if they don't come up with the proof that the debt is mine.

    I warn them of my charges and if they carry on writing back I respond with a letter with my charges on them and the usual if you don't pay up in 14 days etc then I have a right to begin court proceedings without further warning.

    Don't know if it works as I've only started in the last couple of weeks! lol

    However, had no letters back so far!

    I like the idea of charging doorstep callers I do hope I get one! I can charge them for my consultation fee, the fee for using the CCTV recording their every action and word all to just tell them to 'go away' and slamming the door in their face. I think a figure of around £50 should be a good start.


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    Default Re: Charging a DCA

    Do you give them a time limit to pay - roll on small claims



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