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    Default Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Hi all

    I have today, received a Charge Certicate from Southwark Council telling me that I didn't pay a pcnicon issued to me on 19th May. I never recieved the PCN.

    The allegded offence was on 6th May, 51J failing to comply with a no entry sign. I couldn't think where this had supposed to have happened but looking at Google street view, it looks like the road layout has changed since the last time I was there and the road that it may have occurred on is now local buses only, (it wasn't going up a one way street!).

    The original fine is £120, now £180 as the orignal PCN wasn't paid.

    I intend to ring the council tomorrow, where do I stand about not receiving the PCN? I'm sure they have lots of people saying 'I didn't receive it' I can't prove that I didn't.

    Does the 14 days apply for issuing a PCN the same as other traffic offences?

    If they sent it on 19th, they must have been hoping it got to me the next day. I had two other people in the car with me at the time and neither of them remember me going through no entry signs. By the by, if I did it then need to pay, but I only want to pay the £120 as I didn't get the original PCN.


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    You will have to make a make a statutory declaration.
    Southwark council will then reissue the pcn at its original
    amount allowing you to pay or appeal.



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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Ok, thanks, how do I do that?


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Just spoke to the council, woman said to put it in writing that I never recieved the pcnicon and they will take it from there.


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Excellent, thanks Cream70


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy7807 View Post
    Just spoke to the council, woman said to put it in writing that I never recieved the pcnicon and they will take it from there.
    use the forms ! council woman was trapping you into sending a useless letter that the council is free to ignore until its too late for you.


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Looking at the Stat Dec info it refers to an Order for Recovery, I don't think we're at that stage yet? Will the Charge be registered at TEC yet?


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    check with the TEC. Stat dec only valid after the OFR.


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    As an Update, I wrote to the council saying that I didn't receive the original pcnicon and that I don't recall going through a no entry sign. They put the Charge cert on hold while they investigated. They wrote back saying they had looked into my representations and that there were no grounds for cancelling the PCN ( I hadn't asked them to cancel it, just let me see the original PCN!). They did say the PCN had been posted but must have got lost in the post and so they allowed me to pay the reduced charge of £60, which I have done.


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Update on this. I paid the reduced charge once I received the original pcnicon with the pic showing me going thorough the no entry sign.

    Today I recieved a letter from Southwark, just saying,

    'Thank you for your enquiry regarding this penalty notice, I have been instructed to issue a refund.' along with a cheque for £60.

    I haven't sent any further letters to the council, I have no idea why they have refunded the money, any one have any idea? Not complaining just wondered why the change of course after it seems I was bang to rights.


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    I think as a sign of good faith you should refuse to cash the cheque


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    Default Re: Traffic PCN Southwark Council

    Yeah, that'll teach 'em



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