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    Arrow Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Hi everyone

    Does anyone have any experience of dealing with Lowell? Not sure how to proceed. I have a March 07 default with Lowell on a 3 mobile phoneicon contract which is almost three times the original debt(!)

    I know house rules generally forbid us from talking to the scuzzers but if they're likely to have an enforceable agreement I can't help wondering if I shouldn't go in all meek & mild with an offer in return for a "settled / satisfied" flag on this account.

    Thoughts / opinions anyone??

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Hi,

    I'm going to move this thread to the Telecoms Forum, I think you'll get help in there.

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    thanks Scott

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Hi,

    I would be questioning the leeds losers about whether they are actually collecting on a "real" debt and not one of the mistakes made by 3.
    A while back Watchdog found that 3 had been flogging unknown debts to Lowell and it took ages for them to agree that the debt didn't exist.

    In the first instance I would send them a prove it letter. Letter 18 here:

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Thanks Silverfox!

    Will look at the template now & update thread later

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Quote Originally Posted by silverfox1961 View Post
    Hi,

    I would be questioning the leeds losers about whether they are actually collecting on a "real" debt and not one of the mistakes made by 3.
    A while back Watchdog found that 3 had been flogging unknown debts to Lowell and it took ages for them to agree that the debt didn't exist.
    AND NOW BEEN STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY ANOTHER SHIP LOADI BELIEVE.
    In the first instance I would send them a prove it letter. Letter 18 here:

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Hmmm. Had a look at the "prove it" letter that Silverfox suggested & not sure how that would apply in this case.

    Lowell have the default registered at a previous address & to the best of my memory have never chased me. Don't have account / reference numbers etc which is why I'm a little reluctant to use the above letter.

    Was really interesting to note the issue of Lowell, 3 & the non-existent debts though. Wonder whether that's why they've never updated info or chased me? Saying that only registered only Electoral Roll this week after almost two years of being off register so i could be raining down a 5h1t storm on my head anyway!

    I'm only looking at it now as I'd like the default removed / satisfied / settled.

    Jury's still out on how to move this one forward....

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Quote Originally Posted by sam614 View Post
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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    oh yes.a platinum one now lol.

    getting this looked into again with watchdogat this moment.

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Do you know what? Can't argue with the stats (two platinums after all!)

    OK. Going to draft the tailored Prove it letter & get a bit sarky with them into the bargain. Will post something here when done.

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Quote Originally Posted by evancosmo View Post
    Do you know what? Can't argue with the stats (two platinums after all!)

    OK. Going to draft the tailored Prove it letter & get a bit sarky with them into the bargain. Will post something here when done.
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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    ok, what do you think to this to get the ball rolling then guys? Haven't got too sarky with them yet as keeping my powder dry!

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    I defy you to leave the "Dear scumbags" in

    I would also point out that they should remove the default "or else"

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Good point about the default! As for the Dear Scumbags?? Did i mention i was keeping my powder dry? Maybe next time!

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    maybe flag it for the attention of

    sam marsden (yet another one)
    head of compliance

    or bob collins
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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    The response to the "prove it" letter has come back. They "noted" I said I wasn't their customer but with the info they hold they believe I am their customer - they also noted the date & amount of last payment on the account (have no recollection but could be right). Now they want my proposals for repayment.

    OK. So the issues as i see them are:

    1. No one told me the debt had been sold on (although I moved several times so I'm sure they could argue they did)
    2. Lowells have entered a default on my CRA files - I didn't know I'd agreed with 3 that this could happen!

    So, the reality here is that I am prepared to make a F&F on this (albeit not this month) but I want to find a way to get rid of the default.

    Any suggestions guys??

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    Capquest#1: failed to provide CCA - s.10 DPA letter sent
    Capquest#2: failed to provide CCA - s.10 DPA letter sent

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    OH I hate these %%$£**"s

    So after ages of trying to resolve my particular problem (two unfair defaults on credit file) amicably, eventually I served in the county courticon and they've now entered a defence. Its not much of a defence granted, but a defence non the less, (and I'm gonna need help with that guys)

    I have again asked if they want to reach amicable solution - no reply, so over this last weekend I've been all doom and gloom and woe is me - then my 19 year old son says

    "even if they go to court and win, the default then becomes a judgement and coz you cant have a default AND judgement for the same thing the default comes off - so if you then pay the judgement within 28 days, the judgement comes off too so problem solved" (the amount is only £65)

    IS THAT RIGHT???????? GOD I'd feel soooo much better if thats right!


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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    The thread above is interesting!

    Anyway, this saga trundles along. I decided to do a SARicon on these guys which I drafted & sent this morning. Got home from work to discover I've had a letter from BCW to collect on this.

    Am I right in assuming that this debt is technically in dispute while a SARicon is outstanding? If so this would make BCW's approach deceptive & / or unfair according to OFT guidance

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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    Bumping this thread as I am still at a loss as to how to proceed.

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    Capquest#1: failed to provide CCA - s.10 DPA letter sent
    Capquest#2: failed to provide CCA - s.10 DPA letter sent

    Abbey: on going
    Equifax: "attributable data" CCJ removed - Aug 09


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    Default Re: Lowell & Hutchinson 3G

    I don't think the lowlifes should have got BCW to collect on this. Does the letter say they are collecting on behalf of the Northern Numpties? Lowells should have responded by now and the SARicon still has time to go before it becomes in dispute.
    I think that because you are disputing the debt, it could be classed as in dispute
    I'm thinking that a bemused letter might be in order. Again you will have to edit it to suit.

    http://www.consumerforums.com/resour...-is-in-dispute

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