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    Default MeeBroke vs MBNA-Updated CCA Rec'd. Help!

    Hi gang.

    Well, I've thrown my hat into the ring. I'm one of those many that have never missed a payment on anything in their lives. Tough times mean that we've had to cut back in all areas. Spoke to all creditors and all were at least slightly flexible-except MBNAicon. They refuse to discuss any possibility other than 'keep paying' on a CC debt of £18,000. They've ramped up the ineterest without explanation.

    On May11th I CCA'd them and can confirm they received it the following day. Nothing. After about 17 days I sent the second letter. It has now been 34 days and I have not heard one thing. 34 days ago I spoke to them on the phone and said I would not pay another penny until they could explain in writing why my rate was being ramped up. So, for the first time in my life, I have not paid the monthly payment that was due a couple days ago. I simply connot afford the amount they are charging on a 0% CC that they assured me they (Virgin) would switch to "another product" upon completion of the 0% term (no, I don't have this in writing).

    I have no intention to pursue my other cards/debts. I can and will manage these. We have restructured our finances and have not used any credit in about 8 months, nor our overdrafticon.

    I just want MBNA sorted. Sorry for the long-winded rant.

    Advice on next steps greatly appreciated.


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    If you have put the account into dispute then just wait to see what their next move is.



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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    hello all pls take a look at the below thread very interesting!

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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Ok, had two letters from MBNAicon yesterday. One informing me I had missed two payments (I have only missed one, and only because the account is now in dispute). The other was to inform me that they are reporting me to the CRAs. So I hit them with this...


    _Mr _______
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    REF: -----------------

    Dear Mr ------

    I am in receipt of both of your letters dated ------ 2009 in regards to the alleged debt assigned to the reference number listed above, an account which is currently in dispute.

    The first letter suggests the account (which is currently in dispute) is two payments past due and includes a demand for payment. This is incorrect as the account is not past due on any payment and never at any time has been.

    The second is a letter referring to the alleged debt assigned to the reference number above (which is currently in dispute). It is a threatening letter suggesting that MBNA has “informed the Credit Reference Agencies of the arrears”. No such arrears exist. The letter further threatens that this erroneous and unlawful report will continue to be sent to the “Credit Reference Agencies” leading to a default being registered against my credit file.

    Your continued negligence in answering my correspondence is noteworthy. You have ignored my request for a true copy of the Credit Agreement, a copy of this letter I have again enclosed. I have also included the proof of delivery to your office which was signed for on the ------- 2009.

    This letter was followed by a second letter making you aware that your failure to comply with my request has placed MBNA in default. This letter was posted on the ------- 2009 and was received and signed for in your office on the ------- 2009. I have further included both a copy of this letter and proof of delivery of this letter.

    Please note that as of ------- 2009 the alleged debt assigned to the reference listed above has become unenforceable at law. Let me further highlight the following points:

    *You may not demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you.
    * You may not add further interesticon or any charges to the account.
    * You may not pass the account to a third party.
    * You may not register any information in respect of the account with any credit reference agency.
    * You may not issue a default notice related to the account.


    It would be remiss of me to not point out that my current position requires me to maintain a perfect credit score. Any illegal and unlawful reports made by MBNA to any “Credit Reference Agencies” will trigger immediate action from my solicitors. I further make you aware that my solicitors are collecting documents, including this, in regards to this alleged debt.

    I must also point out that your agent, trading as Global Advantedge (sic), have been fully informed of the situation but have carried out a telephone harassment campaign against me. This harassment then triggered the letter posted ------ 2009, demanding Global Advantedge (sic) cease and desist the harassment immediately. A copy of this letter and the transcripts from the telephone callsicon has also been placed in the dossier being compiled by my solicitors.

    I await the requested documentation in regards to the alleged debt assigned to the reference number listed above and remind you of your obligations in this matter. I also hereby request that all correspondence on the alleged debt be in writing to aid further documentation.


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Not a word from them yet.


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Still nothing. No more calls, no letters, nothing. I'm sure I'll get hit with something soon as this is the second month I haven't made a payment. No aknowledgment of any of my letters.


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Well, no letters, no phonecalls and I finally got an email (the first ever from MBNAicon). It's reads:

    Your account remains overdue and your payment history suggests that you are struggling to repay your debt. We are aware of the problems and stress that being in arrears can bring and we would like to take the opportunity to help you, please call 08007 076287 today to discuss your options. Our specialists are available Monday to Thursday 8am to 9pm, Friday 8am to 7pm and Saturday 9am to 3pm.

    Not sure what they're talking about re my 'payment history' as, up until they put the account into dispute by not sending me the CCA, I had never been so much as late on a payment, ever. Obviously I'm not about to speak to them on the phone. The email also says that I may not reply to the email.



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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    So it's game on.

    Today my OH received a call from 'Michael' at MBNAicon. She refused to speak to him. He then rang my mobile and left a message. He then rang my work!!!!

    I have no idea how he got my work number. I work for a global company and even if he found out who I worked for I have no idea how he got all the way to my extention.

    Anyway, he admitted that they had received my letters. He carried on to say that my account was in arrears and I needed to make a payment today. I told him that they had put the account in dispute by not giving me a copy of my CCA back in May. He said "no such laws existed".

    I told him I would only discuss my account in writing. He told me this is impossible because they are a "telephone bank".

    The only good thing to come out of the conversation was that he mentioned to me that the account was opened in 2005. Up until then I was worried about the 2007 cut off.

    I know I shouldn't worry as the account is in disputeicon but I am very worried about them calling my employer.

    Could really use some advice/help. Thanks MB


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Just another bump. So, should I continue the waiting game?


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    There is a "do not telephone me" type template letter that you could send.

    It isn't guaranteed to work, though.

    The phoning at work is an underhand tactic!

    Mike


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    here's the telephone harrassment letter you want. You may need to amend to suit -

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    Re: Harassment by telephone


    ACCOUNT NUMBER: XXXXXXX

    Dear Sirs

    I am writing in relation to the quantity and frequency of telephone callsicon that I have received from your company, which I deem to be personally harassing.

    I have verbally requested that these stop, but I am still receiving calls. (Delete if necessary)

    I now require all further correspondence from your company to be made in writing only.

    I am of the view that your continued harassment of me by telephone puts you in breach of Section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970, and the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

    If you continue to harass me by telephone, you will also be in breach of the Communications Act (2003) s.127 and I will report you to OFCOM, Trading Standards and The Office of Fair Trading, meaning that you will be liable to a substantial fine.

    Be advised that any further telephone callsicon from your company will be recorded. (**Even if you don‘t yet have recording equipment!!**)


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    This should do the trick, but, if it doesn't, keep your cool and report them to the Office of Fair Trading and your local trading standards office.

    PLEASE REPORT ABUSE.

    Remember, keep your cool at all times, don't be intimidated by a piece of plastic, if you don't like what you're listening to, put the phone down - and remember the most important thing of all is to put and get things in writing at all times.

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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Thanks for that. I've already sent that letter to Global 'Vantedge in the beginning when they were ringing me 5 times a day. Stopped instantly.

    Might hold off on this one as the 'frequency' has only been once so far. I honestly want to know how he got my work number though. I had a totally different job when I took out the card, years ago. I never updated this with MBNAicon. Ok, perhaps my NIN is connected to my employer but, we employ 10's of thousands of people in 70 countries. Seriously, how did he get my number?


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    They may have simply called your employer and asked for your number or perhaps a work colleague gave it to them ?



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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    No more phonecalls to date but I've received two more threatening letters telling me my account is in arrears (it's not, it's in dispute). Still no mention of my requests for CCA.

    Letters from Martin Supple, whom I directed my most recent correspondence to (weeks ago now), bringing to his attention my CCA, and copying all the letters I've sent so far to him.

    Getting on 3 months since my initial request for CCA.


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    What's the other thing I can do to try and get these crooks to let me see the documentation, the one that'll cost me £10?

    I can't stand doing nothing


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Quote Originally Posted by MeeBroke View Post
    What's the other thing I can do to try and get these crooks to let me see the documentation, the one that'll cost me £10?

    I can't stand doing nothing

    Actually, I think it's a SARicon? can't find a template letter though. Help gratefully appreciated.

    MB


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Found it. Will send today.


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    Default Re: MeeBroke vs MBNA

    Actually, can someone actually confirm the correct address to send an SARicon to at MBNAicon? Is it the same Chester address?


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    MBNAicon Europe Bank Limited
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    Thanks. Hopefully I'm not wasting more time/paper/ink.



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