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    Default Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    Hi,
    I live in Scotland, under Scots Law. I raised an Action in the Sheriff Court two years ago to recover bank charges (penalties) and the OFT and Banks case was started just before the hearing. At the hearing, the Bank's representative requested that the case be suspended until the outcome of the OFT case, which I agreed to. However, the bank has since demanded payment of the overdrafticon that consists entirely of their charges and has now passed the matter to a debt collectoricon. Now, I read somewhere that this action by the bank is unlawful in view of the suspended Court Action, but I cannot for the life of me find any reference to this. Can anyone please direct me to any relevant literature, and in particular, templates that I can use to put the bank and its agents in their places?

    I thank you in anticipation.


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    Default Re: Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    Will this help


    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Thank you for the above referenced letter,although I am totally bemused as to why I have received it.

    The author of the letter seems to have taken no notice of the present state of the account as it stands, for the following reasons :-

    1) In 2006 , in the High Court, banks applied for and were granted, ‘stays' to claims for ‘penalty charges ‘.Part of the High Court Order states that NO ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS TO BE TAKEN BY THE BANK TO RECOVER any supposed charges made by them ,until the OFT Test Case has been resolved.AND in addition should any action be taken by the Bank,then the ‘stays’will be lifted,and no doubt ,judgement would be awarded in my favour..

    2) I am sure that Lloyds conform to The Banking Codeicon,and as such I will draw your attention to s13.6, reference information you may NOT pass on,IF an account is in disputeicon.The High Court Order I would suggest is reasonable evidence to assume that this account is in dispute.

    3) I am also sure that Lloyds are fully au fait with the, Office of Fair Tradings code for
    debt collectionicon Guidance,and I draw your attention to the latest information from their publication,July 2003(updated December 2006);-

    The following are deemed to be at the very least UNFAIR practices.

    a) Section 2,2 b,Leaving out or presenting information ,in such a way that it creates a false or misleading impression .or exploits debtors’ lack of knowledge.
    HOW you could miss the ‘stays’on the accounts is beyond me.

    b)Psychological harassment,as described in Section 2.6 g,making threatening statements or gestures ,or taking actions suggesting harm.

    c) Section 2.6 h,Ignoring or disregarding claims ,that debts are settled or disputed ,and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment.

    d) Section 2.6 I,Disclosing or threatening to disclose,debt details to third parties ,unless legally entitled to do so.

    e) Section 2.6 k,Not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt

    I can only assume that based on the above,that this letter must have been sent in error,as I am certain you would not wish it to be seen as VEXATIOUS.

    Your letter has obviously caused me a great deal of unnecessary concern,and worry,resulting in me having to take third party advice,undergo law and internet research,and take time out from my employment,as well as postage costs,to reply to your letter.As you are a Bank,and regularly make charges to customers,I have taken the liberty of charging you the sum of £35,which I will add to my costs against yourselves.

    I further feel,that as a show of good faith by the Bank,that any further fees and/or interesticon should be frozen,pending the outcome of the OFT Test Case.

    I would also point out that I intend to maintain my legal rights,and if necassary, file reports with the appropriate authorities, including, but not limited to, Trading Standards, Office of Fair Trading, Information Commissioners Office, Financial Ombudsmanicon Service and possible court action.including the High Court.

    I trust you will give this due diligence,and look forward to your reply within the next 14 days.

    Yours faithfully




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    Default Re: Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    Not sure but I was in court a few days ago trying and failing to get my stay removed. According to the conversation between the judge and the banks barrister all the Shabbey cases in England have had charges and interesticon suspended due to some agreement between the OFT and Shabbey. Perhaps it is not industry wide or in the great glen. Surely the court would have had to notify you of any change in your cases status. Contact the court would be the way to go.


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    Default Re: Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    Thanks for the input, I am using some of the content of havinastella's letter, but keeping it short 'n' sweet for the time being.

    I will still welcome any more information though.


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    Default Re: Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    alot of cases are NOT being 'stayed' or sisted in scotland.

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...tion-bank.html

    basically scottish court system will not take into concern the OFT ongoing case as it's not a basis for the scottish court system.

    the problem here being that you agreed to the sist. (i'll have allok into this)

    have you got a claim for hardship:

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...-hardship.html

    if i find anything helpful to your case i'll post up

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    Default Re: Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    Thanks for the link, IdaInFife, however the GLC links are kind of screwed-up and I am unable to glean any further information from their website. Would you happen to know if a sisting imposes the same obligations upon a bank as a 'stay' does in England, viz. the bank may not actively pursue recovery of a disputed sum?


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    yes if they have used the OFT case as a sist.

    another template if you need it:

    ACCOUNT IN DISPUTE

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Your ref:

    Thank you for your letter of **DATE**, the contents of which are noted.
    I refer to my letter of **DATE** a copy of which is enclosed for your perusal and ease of reference.

    As holders of a Consumer Credit Licence you are obliged to comply with the Office of Fair Trading Guidelines on debt collectionicon. I would therefore be obliged if you would provide me with an explanation as to why you are attempting to collect on an alleged debt which was disputed with **BANK ** prior to your first contact with me, and has yet to be resolved.
    As per OFT guidelines Section 2.8k "not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt."

    Since this is considered an Unfair practiceicon and contrary to the OFT guidelines, you should consider this letter as a formal complaint, and provide me with a copy of your complaint resolution procedure.
    I also require you to confirm that you will now comply with the OFT guidelines, and will not attempt any further collection activity whilst the dispute is unresolved.

    After taking advice, I am of the opinion that your continued pursuit is in violation of the CPUTR 2008, Protection from harassment Act 1997 section 3 as well as breaching a number of the OFT Collection Guidelines.

    Should you fail to provide me with the required undertaking within 7 days, I shall report your breach of the OFT guidelines to Trading Standards and the Financial Ombudsmanicon Service.

    Take notice that I will not discuss this matter on the telephone, and all further communication must be in writing. Any further telephone callsicon will be perceived as harassment, and dealt with accordingly.

    I hope that you will enter into a sincere dialogue with me about this matter and I am writing this letter to you on the assumption that you would prefer to do this than merely respond with standard letters and leaflets.

    I would appreciate your due diligence in this matter.

    I look forward to hearing from you in writing.

    Yours faithfully


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    Default Re: Court Action Suspended Due To OFT Case - Bank now pursuing me

    Great material, thanks again IdaInFife.


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    subbingicon to this thread I'm having similar probs with natpest, will plaguerise your responces if thats ok

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