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    Default Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Newbie help please...

    I have BC & MC credit cards taken out 2000-2001

    where do i send a SARicon

    Do i send two

    Do i send 10 or 20 quid

    thanks in advance for any help

    Beck


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    Default Re: Barclaycard & Mastercard

    Hi Beck1968

    send one SARicon request with both ref numbers. You are asking for all info held on you.

    I will look for address

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    Barclaycard House
    1234 Pavilion Drive
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    NN4 7SG


    sent mine here and got a reply albeit it total rubbish!


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    Default Re: Barclaycard & Mastercard

    Hello Cas93 and Beck1968!

    Just being pedantic, but I would always send anything important to the officer of the bank/Company who is tasked with the service of documents.

    Remember that Barclaycard is just a trading name for Barclaysicon Bank Plc.

    So, send anything important to their Company Secretary at their Registered Office, that way they cannot play games. Please be aware that Barclays will play games over addresses if you happen to send something to one of their many Office/Department addresses...if they think it will help them.

    This is the primary address:

    The Company Secretary
    Barclays Bank plc
    1 Churchill Place
    London
    E14 5HP
    Always send via either Special Delivery or Carrier, because you need to be able to prove delivery. Recorded delivery at worst, but that can be unreliable in terms of proving if/when delivery was made.

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    Hi Beck,

    Please start a second thread when necessary to deal with the Mastercard a/c, ot the 2 cases may get confused. I've changed the title on this thread to show it's for the BC a/c only.

    Re your query about your SARicon, if the Mastercard is a BC MC and the addresses are the same for both a/c's, send just one SARicon and quote both a/c numbers in the heading. Send £10 with your letter.

    If the a/c addresses are different or the companies which run each a/c are different, send a separate SAR and £10 fee for each.

    I note what BRW says but for the SAR, I'd use the statement address.

    However, if you have to file a court claim against BC, then you must use their proper name and address. See here - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...name-when.html

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Hi Guy's

    Just put my first shot across the BC bow with a
    FORMAL REQUEST FOR INFORMATION CPR part 31.16
    with no reference to CCA in Letter

    Dear Sirs
    Account Name… Beck1968
    Account Number… xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I write with regards to the above account with your organisation.

    I respectfully request that you provide me by return a copy of the credit agreement which bears my signatureicon, I require this as I have reason to believe that there may be discrepancies within the agreement which may leave it improperly executed.

    Obviously if the agreement is improperly executed I would be entitled to ask the court to consider the agreement and make a declaration of the rights of parties to the agreement.

    I must stress this request is made pursuant to the Civil Procedure Rules( Pre action protocols and Part 31.16) and therefore unsigned copy will not suffice, only a copy of the original contract in its unaltered form will suffice in these circumstances.

    Please confirm if you still hold a copy of my signed agreement and that you will provide me with this document.

    I do not view this as an unreasonable request given that by supplying the document which i have asked for it will allow me to assess if my case has merit and will help to resolve matters. possibly without the need to involve the court and will undoubtedly save costs on both sides
    I make the observation that any sensible filing system would surely be based on name and/or account number, it should therefore be a simple matter to locate and retrieve such a document.

    I look forward to your reply and would ask for a response by 4pm 16th June 2009

    So lets see them quote CCA 1974 and ....... whatever they try to fob me off with

    took the advice and hit the company sec by special delivery
    lets see what june brings......?????

    Beck


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    Default Re: Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Hi Guy's

    Anybody fancy helping with the second letter (or buddy so i can bounce ideas),
    so i can have it ready when they dont respond

    Beck


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    Hi Beck,

    The 2nd letter is in the next post after the 1st one on the CPR thread.

    Link here - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ml#post1868958



    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Default Re: Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Thanks....been reading tooooo Mannny threads

    Beck


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    Default Re: Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Well....as expected

    Elaine Mockler from BarclayShark sent me a current copy of the T&C's
    and asked if i needed any extra information........

    YES, A COPY OF MY ORIGINAL AGREEMENT (hope you read this Elaine)

    2nd CPR Letter in post today

    Urban Dictionary.

    "Cagging" To display a lack of effort or enthusiasm, Decidedly not trying

    maybe we should ask them to update for Barclaycard

    Beck
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    Barclaycard PPI Refund £4300
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    TSB = Mexican Stand Off

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    Default Re: Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Second reply from BC today...the usual 3 page dribble quoting cca 1974

    account in dispute letter i think

    now do i go to court or bat them about till they produce it ???

    if i take them to court ..... it costs ME money

    if i bat them about it costs THEM money and i can still take them to court
    when i want

    oh what to do ?????.......any advise would be welcome

    Beck
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    Default Re: Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Bumping Myself.....

    "when a person is drowning they will grab on to any life preserver"

    My thinking is...Keep the CPR requests going in every month (as i havent made a payment in over 8 months now and see how it goes)

    If they REALLY have a valid agreement they will want to produce it to get me paying again (6k owed)


    Here's my letter today:-


    Thank you for your letter dated XX July 2009.
    I am somewhat at a loss as to why you have sent a 3 page letter titled:- “Reference: Section 78 of The Consumer Credit Act 1974”

    On two previous occasions I have respectfully requested that you provide me by return a copy of the credit agreement which bears my signatureicon, stressing in my letter that the request is made pursuant to the Civil Procedure Rules(Pre action protocols and Part 31.16) and therefore unsigned copy will not suffice, only a copy of the original contract in its unaltered form will suffice in these circumstances.

    Your first reply was nothing more than a copy of your current terms and conditionsicon.

    Your second reply was nothing more than edited sections of the consumer credit act 1974.

    I find your responses to date very unsatisfactory and obstructive, until such time as you send me a copy of the credit agreement which bears my signature I will:-

    1, Deem this account to be in dispute.


    2, Send you a monthly reminder of my request and all previous unanswered requests.

    3, Reserve the right to make an application to XXXX county court for an order made under the provisions of CPR 31.16 ordering you to disclose the documents which I have requested.


    they keep fobbing me off & I keep asking, giving extra chances....how would that look to the Judge when i ask for the sight of my agreement

    It's Barclaycard / Mercers / Credit Solutions all in reverse

    with me getting them to tip there hand (every request makes it less likely that they have one ) before i ask the court to make them comply

    Beck
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    Default Re: Beck1968 -v- Barclaycard

    Hi Beck,

    If you don't want to take the CPR strategy further at this stage, that's your prerogative, as is your choice to send them a monthly reminder.

    I don't think you should assume they have no agreement, or that any agreement held is invalid. All you can safely conclude is that they don't want to disclose any agreement held, either for you or generally.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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