Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


An excellent guide for the layperson in how to use the County Court - a must if you are intending to start a claim.

£19.99 + £1.50 (P&P)




Last Will and Testament Kit


Make a legally valid will without the fuss and expense of a solicitor - includes a full step-by-step guide.

£9.99 + £1.50 (P&P)

BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.

£13.95 + £2.00 (P&P)


Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg. 05783665 in the UK

reg. office:
923 Finchley Road
London
NW11 7PE



+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    aman23 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2009
    Posts
    33

    Default Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    Hi everyone!
    This is a great forum and thank for all the help you provide!
    I got a letter from Athena ANPR about two weeks ago asking me to pay for a fine because I overstayed (this is between 3:00 am to 5:00 am) at the Lidl car park in Peckham. I sent them the following letter I got from this forum:
    " ... I am the registered Keeper of the vehicle XXXXXXX. I am in receipt of communication from your company regarding a parking chargeicon in respect of an alleged infringement on 13th April 2009.

    Unfortunately, you have not supplied me with sufficient detail regarding the alleged infringement. Please accept this letter as notification of intention to appeal.

    Please provide me with a copy of the regulations pertaining to the car park.

    Can you tell me if your company has signed up to the DVLA’s Voluntary Code of Practice for Private Car Parking Enforcement? I understand your firm is obliged to sign up to receive registration information. Specifically, point 3.2 of the code states:
    “Notices giving full details of the parking contravention and the proposed course of action to be taken by the enforcer should be placed in a prominent position on the ‘offending’ vehicle without causing it damage. Vehicle keepers should be made aware that their name and address will be requested from the DVLA”.

    I can confirm that I was not issued with any
    parking ticket on the day of the alleged infringement. It appears that your evidence of my stay appears to be wholly based on CCTV evidence which I dispute.

    Can you please supply me with a copy of the V888/3 form you sent to DVLA in respect of my vehicle?

    I will therefore be writing to DVLA to ascertain whether they were under the mistaken belief that you had complied with their guidelines before seeking to elicit registration information... "


    And this is what I received from them:

    " ... We are contracted to manage the site at which the alleged offence took place by the owner of the land.
    Vehicle XXXXXXX was identified as staying within the car park at Lidl Peckham for a period of 02hr and 22 minutes, which exceeds the free parking time allowed. There is photographic evidence tosupport this claim.
    The practice of issuing fines via the use of recorded images without issuing tickets on windscreens is now commonplace.
    There is sufficient signsge throughout our client's premises, which clearly indicate the terms of use of the car park and has been in operation for a considerable period.
    The DVLAs Code of Practice as illustrated does not apply in this instance as they have advised us that it is out of date and no longer in use.
    We comply fully with current DVLA procedures as advised to us by them directly.
    As our records are updated electronically we were not supplied with a V888/3 therefore we do not have a copy to give you.
    We regret to advise you therefore that your appeal as outlined to us has been unsuccessful and that we consider this matter to now be enforceable. Please pay via ... "

    Any help with the next action I shoul take will be greatfully appreciated.
    Thanks.


  2. #2
    Gold Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    4,502

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    Quote Originally Posted by aman23 View Post
    Any help with the next action I should take will be greatfully appreciated.
    Thanks.
    Yep, put their letters in a drawer and close it carefully. Only re-open this drawer to place further rubbish they may (edit - WILL) send you.

    As you have discovered, writing to them was a total waste of time and stamp.

    Do not write to them any more
    Do not telephone them
    Do not reply to any of their letters
    Do not pay them.


  3. #3
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    aman23 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2009
    Posts
    33

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    Thanks a lot Crem for this quick response. I will do as you said, just ignore them.


  4. #4
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    2,410

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    was this their EXACT wording ??

    quote "The practice of issuing fines via the use of recorded images"

    NEVER FORGET



    Help Our Hero's Website

    http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/

    HIGHWAY OF HEROES

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...-our-lads.html


    Like Cooking ? check the Halogen Cooker thread
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...n-cookers.html

  5. #5
    Gold Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative crem Highly informative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    4,502

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    Good point kiptower. If they used "fine" then that will give aman23 total reassurance that Athena won't risk going anywhere near a court with their paperwork.


  6. #6
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,508

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    I love these PPC's, they are hilarious



    omnia praesumuntur legitime facta donec probetur in contrarium


    Please note: I am not a member of the legal profession, all advice given is purely my opinion, if in doubt consult a professional

  7. #7
    Platinum Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a donation
    lamma Informative lamma Informative lamma Informative lamma Informative lamma Informative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    6,869

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    just ignore the PPC. couple of points, its a V888/2 form that is used and is the BPA Code that they sign up to - and they have signed up to it. see FAQs - PPCs - fighting back. The forces are aligned and http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...blems+ppc+face


  8. #8
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    aman23 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    May 2009
    Posts
    33

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    was this their EXACT wording ??

    quote "The practice of issuing fines via the use of recorded images"


    Yes Kiptower the actual exact wording!


  9. #9
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative kiptower Authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    2,410

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    its GAME OVER for them

    they shot themselves dead using the word "FINE"


    as said by other's "IGNORE THEM"

    NEVER FORGET



    Help Our Hero's Website

    http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/

    HIGHWAY OF HEROES

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...-our-lads.html


    Like Cooking ? check the Halogen Cooker thread
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...n-cookers.html

  10. #10
    Gold Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    Al27 Highly informative Al27 Highly informative Al27 Highly informative Al27 Highly informative Al27 Highly informative Al27 Highly informative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    3,600

    Default Re: Parking tickt from Athena between 3:00 am to 5:00 am

    ...and 'offence'.

    Worth getting the V888 form. Their reply is incriminating in that they are not demonstrating 'reasonable cause'. Persist with the DVLA and you might get them banned from buying keeper details for a few months.



Browsealoud
Video Tour



Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg.05783665 in the UK reg. office:- 923 Finchley Road London NW11 7PE