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I received a parking ticket from Hounslow for parking in a residents bay, which was not marked at the time. Essentially, I am absolutely adamant that I checked to see if there was a restriction when parking, and couldn't see anything. The various attachments of pictures demonstrate that. To my complete non-surprise, they rejected the informal appeal, and although I feel sufficiently annoyed at the lack of signage to regard this as completely unreasonable, I am unsure if I would be wise to proceed with the appeals process as to whether or not I am likely to win. This isn't local to me, so I didn't have any advance knowledge that this might be residents only, and upon parking I looked to see if there were any restrictions, which there weren't, as you can see.
Equally I'm aware (now) that I could have taken more photographs, but at the time I wasn't really aware of the kind of information I needed.
So here's the initial ticket (front)
And the back:
Here are some images of the complete lack of signage:
And finally, the completely unsurprising rejection of the informal appeal:
Yes, I'm fairly comfortable with the first rejection in that I didn't really expect anything else based on what others seem to say. The bit that I'm unsure of is what their actual responsibilities are with regards to the signage - I note what they say in their letter, but don't believe for a moment they are telling the whole truth - if they're telling the truth at all.
Obviously, I am quite clear that it feels unfair and I certainly wasn't trying to get away with anything, but it's the actual legal side I'm somewhat hazy on. I now know I should have photographed the bays and so forth, but I didn't at the time, and as I say, it isn't local to me.
This was in Chiswick Road. At the start of the street were some disabled bays - seemingly properly signposted, whilst down at the end of the street (as I found out later) were residents permit only signs. However, this is a one way street, so I couldn't have passed those signs for obvious reasons.
Looking at google streetview the bay you parked in has at least 4 resident permit only plates.
but not on the sign post near that point. Interestingly the sign plate is also missing off the view in google, so looks like it is a long standing error.
Looking at google streetview the bay you parked in has at least 4 resident permit only plates.
It did have further down the street - as I found out when I left, but none at the start of the street where I parked. These were the first bays where there was a space. As I say, this was a one way street, so I couldn't possibly have seen them before parking.
I'm not trying to get away with anything here - I'm not someone who knew this was residents permit and parked anyway - I parked because there were no signs where I parked to say that it was residents only! I'm not clear on the legal side, hence my request, but morally at least I'm comfortable that I did nothing wrong. Surely there ought to have been a sign where I parked telling me it was residents permit only? If there had been I wouldn't have parked there!
There is actually a resident parking plate at the very start of the street before the disabled bay and I assume this is in a CPZ so you stand little chance of claiming inadequate singage in my opinion.
There is actually a resident parking plate at the very start of the street before the disabled bay and I assume this is in a CPZ so you stand little chance of claiming inadequate singage in my opinion.
Really? I thought in my ignorance that parking restrictions had to be adequately displayed for the bays in question.:-?
Really? I thought in my ignorance that parking restrictions had to be adequately displayed for the bays in question.:-?
I think you will find 3 timeplates on one bay is adequate, my point was that as its in a controlled zone you should have been fully aware it was restricted and checked the sign on the bay. It is perfectly legal and common practice to place a sign in the centre of the bay a bay does not need a sign at the ends the fact that the street is marked as a bay should indicate to the driver there may be a restriction and upon leaving the vehicle they should check for signs, just because the sign is not right next to your car does not make it inadequate.
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from Hounslow for parking in a residents bay, which was not marked at the time. Essentially, I am absolutely adamant that I checked to see if there was a restriction when parking, and couldn't see anything. The various attachments of pictures demonstrate that. To my complete non-surprise, they rejected the informal appeal, and although I feel sufficiently annoyed at the lack of signage to regard this as completely unreasonable, I am unsure if I would be wise to proceed with the appeals process as to whether or not I am likely to win. This isn't local to me, so I didn't have any advance knowledge that this might be residents only, and upon parking I looked to see if there were any restrictions, which there weren't, as you can see.
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