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    Unhappy Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    I have been claiming on my loan payment protection insurance for over a year and suddenly now i have had medical assessment done by the DWP and am deemed unfit for work the following has happened:-

    1. On thursday i got a phone callicon saying " nothing to worry about we need to clarify a few points" and i was asked questions about doctor, ex employer, benefits etc and the woman kept repeatedly saying nothing to worry about. Its just a routine thing they do. The convsation lasted about 15 mins lots of questions and she kept saying she was acting on behalf of norwich union but nothing to worry about.

    2. today i got a letter asking me to sign consent forms for records from my former employer doctors and dwp but at no time in the conversation on friday did she even mention this would happen i feel kind of duped though i have nothign to hide.

    3. I do not understand why they have suddenly done this to me after over 15 months of paying my claim and they have the whole time had proper doctors certiicates an initial form from the doctors which i had to pay for and could not afford plus now they have a letter from the DWP/Jobcentre saying I am unfit to work I have followed all channels done all correctly.

    My questions are why have they done this after all this time, and they say if i do not give consent they will stop my claim its not the fact that i dont want to give my consent its the fact that i want to know why i was lied to on the phone and why they have put all this unecessary pressure on me when they know i have mental health condition.

    I have now tonight on trawling the internet discovered that the company that phoned me called Cunningham Lindsey are Loss Adjusters and Insurance fraud investigators etc I am non stop worrying now though i have done nothing wrong to claim my loan repayments but feel that by them not telling me in what way the act for the Norwich Union that they have mislead me in that phone callicon all they said was they act for Noriwch Union and i thought it was a general welfare phone callicon as Norwich Union have phoned me every three months in this manner but it was NU who called never ever this other company who it seems from reading about them are quite agressive i would not be able to cope withthis i struggle to leave my home to go to the doctors or to make calls to my own parents.

    Is there any thing i can do?


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    I have been claiming on my loan payment protection insurance for over a year and suddenly now i have had medical assessment done by the DWP and am deemed unfit for work the following has happened:-

    1. On thursday i got a phone call saying " nothing to worry about we need to clarify a few points" and i was asked questions about doctor, ex employer, benefits etc and the woman kept repeatedly saying nothing to worry about. Its just a routine thing they do. The convsation lasted about 15 mins lots of questions and she kept saying she was acting on behalf of norwich union but nothing to worry about.

    2. today i got a letter asking me to sign consent forms for records from my former employer doctors and dwp but at no time in the conversation on friday did she even mention this would happen (she acutally told me on the phone that everything was ok and this does not affect my claim but then why are they now treating me like this) i feel kind of duped though i have nothign to hide.

    3. I do not understand why they have suddenly done this to me after over 15 months of paying my claim and they have the whole time had proper doctors certiicates an initial form from the doctors which i had to pay for and could not afford plus now they have a letter from the DWP/Jobcentre saying I am unfit to work after an assessment was done by the medical services of the jobcentre/dwp I have followed all channels done all correctly.

    4. I also informed this person who rang me that i have been referred for CBT therapy by an independant asessor at my local healthly living centre that my doctor has referred me to, and am awaiting the first appointment which has not arrived yet.

    My questions are why have they done this after all this time, and they say if i do not give consent they will stop my claim its not the fact that i dont want to give my consent its the fact that i want to know why i was lied to on the phone and why they have put all this unecessary pressure on me when they know i have mental health condition.

    I have now tonight on trawling the internet discovered that the company that phoned me called Cunningham Lindsey are Loss Adjusters and Insurance fraud investigators etc I am non stop worrying now though i have done nothing wrong to claim my loan repayments but feel that by them not telling me in what way the act for the Norwich Union that they have mislead me in that phone call all they said was they act for Noriwch Union and i thought it was a general welfare phone call as Norwich Union have phoned me every three months in this manner but it was NU who called never ever this other company who it seems from reading about them are quite agressive i would not be able to cope withthis i struggle to leave my home to go to the doctors or to make calls to my own parents.

    Is there any thing i can do?


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Hello sox,

    I have been claiming on my loan payment protection insurance for over a year and suddenly now i have had medical assessment done by the DWP and am deemed unfit for work the following has happened:- (more questions I am afraid.

    Who is the loan with? (Norwich Union?)

    When did the loan start?
    PPIicon taken out at the point of sale?
    You have claimed on the PPI?
    Are they now attempting to cut off payments on PPI after your medical assessment?


    1. On thursday i got a phone call saying " nothing to worry about we need to clarify a few points" and i was asked questions about doctor, ex employer, benefits etc and the woman kept repeatedly saying nothing to worry about. Its just a routine thing they do. The convsation lasted about 15 mins lots of questions and she kept saying she was acting on behalf of norwich union but nothing to worry about.

    2. today i got a letter asking me to sign consent forms for records from my former employer doctors and dwp but at no time in the conversation on friday did she even mention this would happen i feel kind of duped though i have nothign to hide.

    3. I do not understand why they have suddenly done this to me after over 15 months of paying my claim and they have the whole time had proper doctors certiicates an initial form from the doctors which i had to pay for and could not afford plus now they have a letter from the DWP/Jobcentre saying I am unfit to work I have followed all channels done all correctly.

    My questions are why have they done this after all this time, (I do not have the answer but you should be writing to ask them)and they say if i do not give consent they will stop my claim its not the fact that i dont want to give my consent its the fact that i want to know why i was lied to on the phone and why they have put all this unecessary pressure on me when they know i have mental health condition.

    I have now tonight on trawling the internet discovered that the company that phoned me called Cunningham Lindsey are Loss Adjusters and Insurance fraud investigators etc I am non stop worrying now though i have done nothing wrong to claim my loan repayments but feel that by them not telling me in what way the act for the Norwich Union that they have mislead me in that phone call all they said was they act for Noriwch Union and i thought it was a general welfare phone call as Norwich Union have phoned me every three months in this manner but it was NU who called never ever this other company who it seems from reading about them are quite agressive i would not be able to cope withthis i struggle to leave my home to go to the doctors or to make calls to my own parents.

    Is there any thing i can do?
    1. Do you have any contact details for Cunningham Lindsey (address or phone number?)

    2. Write to Norwich Union and insist on an answer as to why Cunningham Lindsey are calling you as your ppi agreement is with NU and no one else. Mention that Cunningham Lindsey have stated that they act on behalf of NU.

    3. Be prepared to write letters to the FSA and the OFT to complain about what is happening with NU and this Cunningham bunch.

    4. It is important to get more details on Cunningham Lindsey.

    keep posting the more information the better but remember to omit any personal details like names addresses sort codes account numbers referring to you.

    do post every bit of information on Cunningham Lindsey and NU that you can.

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    Default Re: why am i being treated like this its making me more ill than i am

    Sox this is a duplicate post to the one you put in the PPIicon Forum i would stick to just the one post as it will get confusing for you and posters to follow.


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Who is the loan with? (Norwich Union?) Loan with HSBCicon PPIicon'd by NU
    When did the loan start? Dec 2004 ( 5 years ends Dec 2009)
    PPI taken out at the point of sale? Yes
    You have claimed on the PPI? Yes
    Are they now attempting to cut off payments on PPI after your medical assessment? Smalll print of letter says if I dont signicon and send consent forms in 14 days they cut of ppi no mention of my previous medical assessments of anything just seperate consent forms for me to sign and fill in for:-

    1. ex employer asking full details of employer
    2. Her majestys revenue and customs they want the adress of office on my last P60
    3. The Department of Work and Pensions
    All of the above ask for my name NI number DOB and address and says that i give consent for them go send any information that Lindsey Cunningham consider necessary together with the release of all records held which may be required to assist my claim
    4. And a consent to apply for a medical report from my doctor (they had one of those back when the claim first started)

    I just do not understand why after this amount of time and all the medical certificates and two reports that NU have had why I have been referred to this Lindsey Cunningham company and why when Lindsey Cunningham phoned me they did not tell me the truth that it was a telephone interview to determine if i am comitting fraud or not which I AM NOT and then at the end of the convertsation she said all is fine claim ok and then i get this letter this is so underhanded i wish I could explain the worry it is causing me and the extra stress i have cause of it. I even told them my doctor referred me to the local healthly living centre to get an assessment for CBT therapy and I have now been assessed and accepted and am waiting for my first appointment.

    I feel violated by these people and by the NU is the trained DWP medical officer, my trained Doctor, and a trained psychiatric nurse all wrong????



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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    By the way there are a few referrals to Lindsey Cunningham on this site, about how people have been mistreated on house fire claims etc.


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    sorry am new to this tonight, couldnt find my first post thought i had not submitted it and done it wrong really sorry how do i delete one of them please



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    no need to apologise i just did not want u having probs trying to make sence of answers on two posts PF


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    I will do a search to gather information on Lindsey Cunningham you mentioned in your first post it was Cunningham Lindsey which is it please.?

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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Please do not worry about lindsey cunningham approaching you. We will find out the truth in the end either via HSBCicon the creditor or NU the PPIicon creditor.

    Let's try and find out what Lindsey Cunningham have to do in all of this and take it from there.


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Alan,

    Sox15 has a duplicate post here

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...m-i-being.html

    Can you or another mod merge the two to make it easier for sox to follow

    Thanks

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    I will try and merge the posts to make life a bit easier


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    threads now merged all in one.

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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    AA the company is Cunningham Lindsay.

    Perhaps it is worth a SARicon for a transcript of the telephone conversation so you can prove at no point did they say this was a telephone interview and what the purposes of it were etc??


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Thank You Alan

    Sox it maybe a good idea if you bookmark this thread so you dont lose it


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    thanks for the help in merging the posts sorry i got in a muddle

    The company has a website on the letter with the consent forms its www.cunninghamlindsey.co. uk sorry if i have confused anyone i am so confused myself i am also in the middle of a forced house move and the letter and all this has only added more stress.

    I think i have explained the jist of my problem above but am happy to answer questions if any one can help me.

    My main concern after all this time of my claim going ahead all under proper cicrumstances with the back up of doctors and others as explained earier is why are they suddenly doing this to me especially as it is only a week after the NU received a letter from the Jobcentre/DWP medical people saying i am considered unfit to work.

    Working my way the best i can through the conversation, (my memory is not too good at moment) i remember explaining to her that i had forwarded the letter i recieved from the DWP saying i am effectively unable to work by post but the NU say they never received it so I had to get the DWP to sent me another copy, which i asked my husband to fax to them from his work so it got therequickly as the NU had asked me to fax another copy instead of post, the person on the phone for cunningham Lindsey later again asked me where the letter was faxed from and i told her again that my husband faxed it from his place of work. I only remember that cause i remember thinking it seemed a strange question to ask me.

    Last bit is the woman who rang caught me on the day we were movinghouse and i explained that to her that i was stood in the middle of the garden in my old house trying to sort a move out and she asked if it was ok but before i could reply she went on to say that this was the easiest way to havet his chat as other wise i would have to fill in lengthy forms. I also remember explaining to her that we were only movinghouse cause our landlord was a farmer who wanted his houseback as he had rented out with some stables and i remember telling her that we did not want to move but had to and how it had upset me after nine years in that house.

    dont know if any of this is relevant but now i sit and think about it i should have been suspicious but wasnt as had too much other stuff on my mind plus she kept telling me not to worry. I also now remember saying to her is my claim ok and she said yes there is nothing to worry about just carry on as i was.

    thanks Sox


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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Hello Sox,

    Do you have a copy of the Consumer Credit Agreement for the loan and the terms and conditionsicon that should have been with it at the point of sale.

    If you do not have a copy you will need to send a Subject access requesticon to get one...template letter here....

    Data Protection Act 1998 - Subject access request

    You have to send the statutory fee of £10.00.

    You should ask for:

    A true copy of your Consumer Credit Agreement together with the terms and conditionsicon that were applicable at the time your loan started.

    Copies of all statements that are applicable to your account.

    A copy of the needs and wants/customer duty of care questionnaire which should have been filled in by the NU staff at the point of sale. (this questionnaire is aimed at the staff asking all of relevant questions to ensure the PPI is suitable for you.

    Request all other data, letters, emails, faxes, tape recordings or transcripts of tape recordings (including the most recent calls mentioned in your posts make a note of the date and time of the call so you can jog their memory about what was said during the call/s) you can ask for all data in whatever format they hold it on paper, electronic, CD, microfiche etc.

    You will need to gather as much information as possible. Once you have it you can then start a claim for mis-sold PPI.

    Have a look at this for information on mis-selling.

    PPI - Some Notes for Claimants..

    For claims before 2005 and the FSA ruling from which campaign
    How to tell if you’ve been mis-sold PPI

    Quick check: were you mis-sold? - How to tell if you’ve been mis-sold PPI

    Another Useful article on Single Premium PPI and why the FSA say it was unfair.
    http://www.moneymadeclear.fsa.go v.uk...insurance.html
    Payment protection insurance (PPI) – Refunds of single premiums : FSA Money made clear – Unfair contracts

    THIS LINK IS IMPORTANT TO YOU ON RECLAIMING IT IS FROM 2001 FROM THE fosicon
    loan payment protection insurance and a quote from this link...

    When determining whether a policy is suitable, a seller – whether a lender or an agent for the insurer – must obviously take into consideration any information the prospective policyholder volunteers. However, we do not consider the seller’s duty is limited simply to recording what the borrower discloses. It is only by asking questions that the seller can properly determine suitability. These questions cannot cover every aspect of a borrower’s personal position and should not be expected to do so. To paraphrase the ABI Statement, only those matters deemed to be relevant by the insurer should be the subject of questions.
    Deal only by letter that way there can be no denials on what has been said on the phone.

    Keep copies of all correspondence.

    I will ask for further advice on Cunningham Lindsey uk and get back to you.

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    Default Re: Claiming on my PPI for a loan feel duped please help

    Hi I think you may be misreading what i am trying to say, I am claiming on the PPIicon as in the Nu are paying my loan for me as I am considered unfit for work and now after 15 months and many doctors reports they are investigating me it appears

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    Sox,

    You really need to send a SARicon - that will show you all the info they have on you including the transcript of the last phone conversation.

    It may become important for you to have that


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    Hi I think you may be misreading what i am trying to say, I am claiming on the PPIicon as in the Nu are paying my loan for me as I am considered unfit for work and now after 15 months and many doctors reports they are investigating me it appears

    Sox
    Ok sox I see the point you are making it is the investigation element by cunningham lindsey that is the cause for concern. I would write to Norwich Union and ask them to explain in writing what is going on. I am not sure if it is NU practice to get a loss adjuster involved if claims for illness are extended. The SARicon is important though and as andie posts above especially transcripts of that call saying there is nothing to worry about.



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