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    Hi all.

    I sent a CCA request to barclaycard and the 12/14 days to respond is due to expire on 4th May.

    On Tuesday I received a response from Barclaycard in which they 'write further to your letter and enclosed £1.00 requesting a copy of your executed agreement for the above account'.

    The document that was included was a copy of the original terms and conditionsicon when I opened the account in 2002/03. (Nothing with my sgnature on).

    The letter also included a declaration of my current credit limit, a declaratio of my current balance and when the next minimum payment is due.

    They told me that a copy of my current barclaycard agreement will be sent under separate cover.

    They closed the letter telling me that this completes their obligation under section 78 of the 1974 CCA.

    Today I received a copy of my Barclaycard terms and conditionsicon, not an agreement. (again nothing with my signatureicon on it)

    Any advice on what I do now??

    Have they met their obligation and should they have a signed agreement? I don't ever remember signing anything.

    Any help at this stage would be greatly appreciated.

    Tobster


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    Default Re: CCA request with Barclaycard

    From what you have said, they have not complied but just sent you T&C's. You can send them the following letter:

    Dear Sirs,

    Account Number: XXX

    Re: your recent reply to my request under section 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974

    I note that you have replied to the above by sending your companies terms and conditionsicon I must inform you that this is not sufficient to comply with the request and that your company is still in default under the act.

    To clarify, just sending the terms and conditionsicon is a breach of the Act and Regulations as, apart from the information that the Regulations provide that you may exclude, the copy must be a “true copy” of the agreement.

    This breach of the agreement can be demonstrated as follows;
    As you will know section 180(1) (b) authorises, “the omission from a copy of certain material from the original, or the inclusion of certain material in condensed form.” This refers to statutory instruments made under the heading Copies of document regulations and in this care in particular to SI 1983/1557.

    Before leaving section 180 there are two other sections that should be remembered these are:

    Section 2(2) (a) A duty imposed by any provision of this Act (except section 35) to supply a copy of any document is not satisfied unless the copy supplied is in the prescribed form and conforms to the prescribed requirements;

    And more importantly

    Section 2(b) A duty imposed by any provision of this Act (except section 35) to supply a copy of any document is not infringed by the omission of any material, or its inclusion in condensed form, if that is authorised by regulations.

    You will see that this quite clearly states that whilst certain items may be left out of the copy document the rest of the document must be in the form and contain all items as prescribed by the regulations.

    Turning to the regulations regarding what may be omitted from these copies these are contained with SI 1983/1557.

    The regulations state:
    (2) There may be omitted from any such copy-
    (a) any information included in an executed agreement, security instrument or other document relating to the debtor, hirer or surety or included for the use of the creditor or owner only which is not required to be included therein by the Act or any Regulations thereunder as to the form and content of the document of which it is a copy;
    (b) any signatureicon box, signature or date of signature (other than, in the case of a copy of a cancelable executed agreement delivered to the debtor under section 63(1) of the Act, the date of signature by the debtor of an agreement to which section 68(b) of the Act applies);

    It is quite clear what can be omitted from the copy document, this again asserts that all other details of the agreement should presented in form and content as required by the regulations.

    The requirements of the Agreement regulations 1983/1553 are very explicit in describing the form and content of an agreement and this as I have demonstrated also applies to the copy of any such agreement with the above mentioned proviso.

    Nowhere within these regulations does it state that part of the agreement can be presented on a separate document headed terms and conditionsicon.
    It does state that all terms and conditions should be within the agreement document and is explicit of the form in which it is presented.

    I hope this explains why your reply was unacceptable I await a True copy of my agreement and would remind you again that whilst the request has not been complied with the default continues

    Yours faithfully
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    Hi Tobster,

    No disrespect to Clemma but ..............

    Clemma's suggested letter would have been appropriate a while back but we now know BC will NOT send you the credit agreement in response to a CCA request. All the threads here in the BC forum about getting sight of your agreement back this up.

    Read up on the CPR strategy in Link No2 in my signatureicon below.

    Then see this - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...t-success.html

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
    Link 2. Checking your credit Agreement - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...greements.html
    Link 3. Interest Tutorial - http://www.consumerwiki.co.uk/index....erest_Tutorial
    Link 4. OFT Guide re s.78 CCA1974 Requests - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/OFT1272.pdf

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    Thanks guys.. here goes the reading!!



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