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    hi guys,

    im just wondering what you would do. i got a sorn fine for my motorbike about 4 mnths ago and ended up just paying it along with sending them a letter to let them know how i feel.... anyway i didnt realise that you could appeal the fine. what do you think the chances would be of getting refunded would be or would i be wasting my time??

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    It depends why they felt the SORN fine was valid and why you think that you had acted correctly in the first place (e.g had you sent the SORN off on time etc)

    Maybe if you expand on the story giving a time line and what letters were sent received etc.

    Getting your money back though, once paid, is going to be so much harder than not paying in the first place I am sure.


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    On balance, I'd say you've lost all right to appeal. They sent the fine, and you paid it, so this in itself would be an admission you hadn;t complied with the rules. Most councils will state that if the fine is paid, no further appeal is possible, and I'm sure the DVLA will use this tack.

    Why did you pay if you weren't liable?


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    i didnt send the sorn off as i had an opperation coming up and that was the last thing on my mind. i had not driven the bike while tax was out it simply sat in the garage and is still sitting there unused. why can they fine anyone in this postion with out proof that the vehichle is being used??


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    Quote Originally Posted by tree_bug View Post
    i didnt send the sorn off as i had an opperation coming up and that was the last thing on my mind. i had not driven the bike while tax was out it simply sat in the garage and is still sitting there unused. why can they fine anyone in this postion with out proof that the vehichle is being used??
    The whole point about SORN is that the vehicle mustn't be used. If it is being used then it must be taxed rather than on SORN. They don't need "proof the vehicle is being used"; all that is required is that the VED has expired and not been replaced or SORN declared - that's the law.

    You paid up at the equivalent of FPN stage. By paying, you have admitted guilt for the offence - appealing and getting your money back is virtually a non-starter. You would have to produce new evidence. What you have posted so far is mitigation, not evidence that the offence did not occur.


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    As Pat says, it is now the law that vehicles need to be continuously registered, we don't have a choice in the matter. The fact we didn't have to in the past is immaterial, as well as any relevant reasons ranging from I forgot, up to I had no plans to use it as it has no wheels.... none of which cut any ice,

    Whether we like it or not - until the law is changed back, we need to put a note on the diary/calendar one year AFTER we buy the disc saying - Replace/SORN? to ensure this doesn't happen again.



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