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    Default Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    I'm new around here and hoping someone can give me a little advice, so far I'm dealing with La Redoute/Call Serve Debt Managers Ltd (and EOn/Powergen/Bryan Carter Co/Fredrickson shower - went from £300 in credit to debt of £700+ in 2-3months, I think not! so I don't for one minute believe I owe anything on our previous address gas & electricity account, but that's for another thread!)
    I sent a CCA Request to La Redoute on April 7th via first class recorded delivery.. however, Royal Mail don't seem to have bothered to deliver it There is no confirmation it has been delivered, only details of the Post Office I sent it from!

    A week ago I received a letter from Call Serve?/Debt Managers LTD about the La Redoute account.. Stating they cannot trace receipt of my reply to their recent letter - That would be because I haven't received a letter from them prior to this one. They are allowing me 7 days to settle the account after this time legal action may be commenced blah..

    Who are they? Has anyone dealt with them before? Have they purchased the 'debt' from La Redoute?

    Should I send another CCA Request to CS/DMLTD or La Redoute.. I am annoyed with Royal Mail, fed up of my post not being delivered!! Should I mention I have already requested the cca or not? Seeing as RM don't seem to have delivered it to them :-|



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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    Welcome to the CAGicon forums Blossom....

    Send this recorded to Call Serve / Debt Managers, despite you having sent the CCA request (enclose a copy of the recorded delivery slip to prove you sent it) by sending it recorded you have made more than a reasonable attempt to get it to them....

    ACCOUNT IN DISPUTE
    Dear Sir or Madam,
    Account number: XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX

    I must admit that I am rather bemused as to why this account has been passed to yourselves, as it is in dispute with the **original creditor/DCA** and has been since DATE 2007.
    Not only is this a breach of OFT collection guidelines, but also in breach of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 and Data Protection Act 1998

    My last letter from **original creditor/DCA** was DATE and intimated that my complaint would be
    resolved on **DATE**, this obviously hasn’t happened.
    As **original creditor/DCA** are now in default of my Consumer Credit Act request, OFT Collection Guidelines, *Subject access requesticon and have also breached *s10 Data Protection Act request , I consider this account to be in SERIOUS DISPUTE.

    As you are aware while my Consumer Credit Act request remains in default enforcement action is NOT permitted, under s127 this constitutes a complete defence at law.

    Consequentially any legal action you pursue will be averred as both UNLAWFUL and VEXATIOUS.

    Now I would respectfully suggest that this account is returned to the **original creditor/DCA** for resolution of these defaults and breaches, as **New DCA** cannot lawfully pursue any enforcement activities.

    If **New DCA** chooses to ignore my dispute and attempt enforcement, I will initiate legal action and file reports with the appropriate authorities, including, but not limited to, Trading Standards, Office of Fair Trading, Information Commissioners Office, Financial Ombudsman Service and possible court action.

    After taking advice, I am of the opinion that any continued pursuit is in violation of the Administration of Justice Act 1970 section 40 as well as breaching a number of the OFT Collection Guidelines

    I hope that this will not be necessary and an acceptable solution can be accomplished.

    I would appreciate your due diligence in this matter.
    I look forward to hearing from you in writing.

    Yours faithfully


    Then send this letter to La Redoute (also recorded) this is the letter to send if they fail to send you a copy of your agreement within 12+2 working days of your original request...

    http://www.consumerforums.com/resour...timescale.html

    PLEASE NOTE - I am not a legal expert, what is stated is my own opinion and from what I have learnt from this forum and my own experiences.

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    I AM HAPPY TO RECEIVE PM's AND I WILL RESPOND IF I FEEL I CAN ASSIST BUT WHEN YOU DO CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD ON WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO COMMENT - THANK YOU

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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    Fab, thank you for your reply 42man


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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    42man, are you able to help with another issue I have?
    Just arrived in the post today, quite strange, a letter from Shop Direct and one from Lowell Financial Ltd... I have no idea who Shop Direct are? It mentions Littlewoods next to the 'account type' but I've never had an account with them, what sort of letter should I send them?

    (I did have an account with Grattan, are they the same company? I paid off the Grattan account a few years ago though and there certainly isn't an outstanding balance.)


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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    Start a new threadicon for each situation Blossom, as this thread could become confusing.....send this letter by recorded - http://www.consumerforums.com/resour...-the-debt.html

    You might like to add that you have categorically NEVER held any sort of account with Shop Direct or Littlewoods

    PLEASE NOTE - I am not a legal expert, what is stated is my own opinion and from what I have learnt from this forum and my own experiences.

    DEBT COLLECTION LETTER/SAR/AGREEMENT TEMPLATES ARE HERE - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...65-legislation

    IF WE HAVE BEEN HELPFUL -PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE A DONATION TO HELP US TO CONTINUE HELPING YOU

    I AM HAPPY TO RECEIVE PM's AND I WILL RESPOND IF I FEEL I CAN ASSIST BUT WHEN YOU DO CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD ON WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO COMMENT - THANK YOU

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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    I'm back, it's been a little while! Royal Mail didn't bother delivering my first cca request to La Redoute so I couldn't prove they'd received it, I sent another and a follow up reminder but the very next day, I received their reply - with an agreement I've never seen before! ? It's just a standard brand spanking new agreement, the APR etc are all mentioned I think, looks like new literature but I've never seen it so not sure and it certainly doesn't have my signatureicon.
    I will scan the letter and doc asap and re post. Could I have some advice what to do next please? thank you!


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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    if it not signed then how can they say its urs?

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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    Yes, I know! I've never signed any such document, so I knew they would not be able to produce my agreement - I never had one and don't remember seeing anything like this doc they've sent.

    Ok, the letter.....

    http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/w...ardocs/047.jpg

    and the agreement they sent.....
    Front page: http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/w...ardocs/044.jpg


    Inside Page:
    http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/w...ardocs/045.jpg


    Page 3&4:
    http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/w...ardocs/046.jpg



    My scanner isn't playing ball so they're photographs, hope they can still be read? and that the links work!

    The letter states ' I am attaching a copy of the standard agreement issued when you opened your account, as required by regulation 3 of the consumer credit regulations 1983.'
    Can anyone advise on this, a little stuck what to do next. Thank you


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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    yep send them a non complaince letter i will post a link to one.

    Red cats still own them i see they are easy to make fold as i had 2 accounts with them one sent me a standard agreement like that the other a booklet.

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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    Dear Sirs,
    Acc Number XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Re: my request under the Consumer Credit Act 1974

    Thank you for your recent letter sent to me, the contents of which are noted. I appreciate your quick response to my original letter. However, the reply received by me does not fulfil your requirements under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.
    The Act demands that I be supplied with a true copy of any properly executed credit agreement that exists in relation to the above account. I may ask for this on demand providing that a fee of £1.00 is paid. This fee was sent with my original letter.
    My request for this information remains outstanding.
    Your letter dated the xx/xx/ 2007 is somewhat confusing and does not appear to be in direct response to my request. You <put hear what u got in reply EG a blank form> In addition you quote “This information will also form part of your records at the Credit Reference Agencies where we share information. This information will remain on your Credit Reference File for 6 yearsicon.” again I have to question what relevance this is to my statutory request.
    As things stand I have requested disclosure pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974 section 78(1). You have failed to comply with this request and are now in default of your statutory obligations under the Act. As a result of this I am withholding payment under the provision of s78 (6) CCA 1974 until you actively engage me in discussions to resolve this dispute, something that you have to date completely avoided.
    Therefore I respectfully request that you clarify if you will be complying with my request for a true copy of the executed agreement covering this account, if not I respectfully request that you confirm if you do indeed hold the requested documentation to allow me to assess how best to deal with this dispute.

    Should you ignore this request you will leave me not option but to make formal complaints to the OFT, fosicon and Trading Standards. In addition l cannot rule out the prospect of legal action to prohibit you from processing my data should this attempt to resolve this matter be ignored.
    If I have not received response within 14 days of you receiving this letter l will start making my complaints.
    Please don’t ignore this letter, If you don’t understand it please pass it on to someone who will.
    I look forward to your reply.

    Your Faithfully.

    BLAH

    Print dont signicon send Recorded delivery edit where needed

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    Thanks GodMother


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    yw

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    Great advice from GM....If the account is less than 6 yearsicon old then you could try this - as by law they should keep a copy of your signed agreement to comply with the money laundering regulations - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...tml#post935411 - OR this one -

    Thank you for your response to my request under the Consumer Credit Act section 78.

    I am pleased to see that you confirm this as a true copy of the original agreement executed by yourselves on the XXXXX.

    As you must realise this agreement does not conform to sections 60(1) and 61(1) of the Consumer credit Act and is therefore unenforceable under section 127(3) of the same act.


    You had until (date here) to provide me with the true copy I requested. After that date you entered into default of my request and I am therefore advising that the matter is now in dispute . Whilst the matter is in dispute, you are not permitted to ask for any payment, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you. Furthermore, whilst the dispute remains, you are not entitled to charge any interesticon on the account, make any further charges to the account or pass the account to anybody else.

    Please note you may also consider this letter a statutory notice under Section 10 of the Data Protection Act to cease processing any data in relation to this account with immediate effect. This means you must remove all information regarding this account from your own internal records and from my records with any credit reference agencies including any defaults. Should you refuse to comply, you must within 21 days provide me with a detailed Breakdownicon of your reasoning behind continuing to process my data. It is not sufficient to simply state that you have a ‘legal right’, you must outline your reasoning in this matter and state upon which legislation this reasoning depends.

    Should you fail to respond within 21 days, I will expect that this means you agree to remove all such data.



    PLEASE NOTE - I am not a legal expert, what is stated is my own opinion and from what I have learnt from this forum and my own experiences.

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    Brilliant, thank you again 42man
    Letters in the post, thanks both x


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    Hi, me again I've received a reply to my last letter...

    [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']They admit they have no agreement and I think they are trying to scare me by saying they can send someone to visit(!) [/FONT]They also mention 'action 21days after the date of this letter' - Their letter isn't dated!

    Can anyone advise what I should respond with please? They're talking of defaults on my credit file etc, I want them off it if possible. I think I've seen on others threads a 'no right to process my data' letter? Is this the one I should send, could someone point me in the right direction.
    Thank you


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    Default Re: Advice Please, La Redoute cca Request

    well you can either wait for 21 days after the date u recieve the letter.

    you could send the trespasses will be shot letter or you could wait to see what debt managers do. I am assuming they have contacted you in regards to this?

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    they have no evidence you agreed to repay any alleged debt so sending it to a DCAicon is breaking the CCA as that is classed as enfocing the alleged debt.

    Also they have admitted no CCA so court action would no really be a good idea.

    I will look in my libary and see what i can find.

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