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I'm new to this civil parking enforcement stuff and I was just curious if anybody has any ideas about this..
I got issued a pcn this evening for parking partially on the pavement. the odd thing is that there are signs that allow parking partially on the pavement down most of this road along with dashed lines painted on the pavement, however there is a car's gap between the start of the dashed lines on the pavement and the end of the double-yellow lines coming from the junction at the end of the road. Which is where I was parked.
Do you think it would be worthwhile challening this pcn, given the unmarked gap that I was parked in and that there is no difference in the width of the road between where I was parked and allowed pavement parking? Why the dashed lines don't extend to the double-yellow lines is a bit of a mystery.
Like I said, I don't know enough about this to know whether I should keep quiet and pay up or whether the council are trying it on. All I know is that car's parked with all four wheels on the tarmac in this unmarked area would have been obstructing traffic.
Assuming this is in Greater London parking on the footway is prohibited unless in a marked bay. The width of the road is not relevant the only excuse for parking on the footway is to unload if it could not have been carried out without doing so. Having said that the signage needs to be correct the bays should have a blue sign with a picture of a car on the footway and a red line thru where they end is this the case?
The 10 metre distance from the junction did cross my mind, but that is not what the ticket was issued for. I am however fairly certain that I was parked beyond that point, whether the double-yellow lines extended that far or not.
This is within Greater London, and there is indeed the blue sign with a car partially on the pavement, and dashed white line markings that (the road is essentially one looong bay). The signs and bay commences just in front of where I was parked.
There are no blue bay signs with red lines through at the end of the marked bay area or within this seemingly no-mans-land area I was parked in!
The 10 metre distance from the junction did cross my mind, but that is not what the ticket was issued for. I am however fairly certain that I was parked beyond that point, whether the double-yellow lines extended that far or not.
This is within Greater London, and there is indeed the blue sign with a car partially on the pavement, and dashed white line markings that (the road is essentially one looong bay). The signs and bay commences just in front of where I was parked.
There are no blue bay signs with red lines through at the end of the marked bay area or within this seemingly no-mans-land area I was parked in!
The sign is usually on the reverse of the permitted footway parking sign.
I will check next time I pass there, although if the permitted footway parking sign is on a pole facing the road, then the red-line-through sign would be facing somebody's fence and not facing the road at all.
Interestingly, when I took a proper look at the ticket this morning, my car particulars were down as black - my car is in fact green. Would this make any difference?
You may have a case if the signage is missleading usually the sign faces the traffic not the road to indicate the start and end of the permitted footway parking. You could try an informal appeal that the sign did not indicate you must be within the bay. A photo ofthe location and pcn may show more info to help.
I would appeal on the grounds the contravention did not occur since the sign indicates you may park with two wheels on the kerb. It does not state in marked bays and that is not what the sign means either.
Pavement Parking
this evening for parking partially on the pavement. the odd thing is that there are signs that allow parking partially on the pavement down most of this road along with dashed lines painted on the pavement, however there is a car's gap between the start of the dashed lines on the pavement and the end of the double-yellow lines coming from the junction at the end of the road. Which is where I was parked.
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I am however fairly certain that I was parked beyond that point, whether the double-yellow lines extended that far or not.
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