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    Question Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Hello

    I've come back to this site after successfully using it a few years back to reclaim my bank charges.

    I now have a new problem.

    The bottom line is, I've received a £60 ticket for overstaying in a Netto carpark. I am the registered owner and Excel obviously got my details from the DVLA. The advice is slightly confusing to me as on one hand it says clearly that you should ignore these letters, but then I've seen templates.

    I've been reading up on here about Excel and the legalities of private car park tickets for the last two weeks now!! I've seen lots of templates and got lots of advice. Got far too much information in my head now and need to either respond to the ticket - today - or not.

    I'm starting a new job in a week. I won't have as much time as before to engage with this 'company' and all the bullying and threats that seem par for the course with them, however, I know enough about this site to know that I also shouldn't pay unless ordered to by a court... Not looking forward to a long drawn out battle with them at all and I absolutely do not want bailiffsicon at my door. Sigh.

    I guess my question at this point is, having received the original ticket/invoice, do I ignore or respond with a template and if so, which template.

    Many thanks in advance.


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Ignore. I believe the consensus is that this is the best way at present -and certainly does work. By entering into correspondence you will just recieve even more threatening letters in reply. Baliffs will only knock on your door if its goes to court (extremely unlikely) and then if you dont pay what is ruled.
    It seems that most people believe that baliffs enter the fray after a few letters and without things going to court- and that is exactly why the PPC's/ DCAicon's make as much money as they do-people believe in thier threatograms. Excel are nothing to be troubled over and will disappear after a few letters-approx 5/6

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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    Hello

    I've come back to this site after successfully using it a few years back to reclaim my bank charges.

    I now have a new problem.

    The bottom line is, I've received a £60 ticket for overstaying in a Netto carpark. I am the registered owner and Excel obviously got my details from the DVLA. The advice is slightly confusing to me as on one hand it says clearly that you should ignore these letters, but then I've seen templates.

    I've been reading up on here about Excel and the legalities of private car park tickets for the last two weeks now!! I've seen lots of templates and got lots of advice. Got far too much information in my head now and need to either respond to the ticket - today - or not.

    I'm starting a new job in a week. I won't have as much time as before to engage with this 'company' and all the bullying and threats that seem par for the course with them, however, I know enough about this site to know that I also shouldn't pay unless ordered to by a court... Not looking forward to a long drawn out battle with them at all and I absolutely do not want bailiffsicon at my door. Sigh.

    I guess my question at this point is, having received the original ticket/invoice, do I ignore or respond with a template and if so, which template.

    Many thanks in advance.
    Legally unenforceable, send template letters if you wish to engage; however, popular opinion is to ignore and it worked for me.

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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Ignore route is highly recommended at present.


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Thank you all for your advice. I love CAGicon, but I always seem to read myself into a state of confusion with all of the (very useful) information on here.

    I shall do as advised and just ignore at this point. I really do hope that I don't end up as a case on Watchdog at some point in the future where this company decides to send out letters etc retrospectively through a solicitors - a bit like Britannia and the like.

    Anyway, thanks again and I shall file the 'invoice' carefully.


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Good for you OGB. Keep us updated if you can

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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    The best, most effective solution is the easiest.

    Simply ignore them.

    Simples!


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Excel operate an industry-leading appeal system where any cases contested are scrupulously examined. Your best option is to write in. If you didn't overstay then you will have nothing to worry about.


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Warblington View Post
    Excel operate an industry-leading appeal system where any cases contested are scrupulously examined. Your best option is to write in. If you didn't overstay then you will have nothing to worry about.
    Sorry, really have to disagree here. You only have to look at the vast amount of threads regarding Excel's 'appeals' system. Its no different and as flawed as any other PPC's

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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Alan, so you work for Excel then. Are you responsible for the contents of their paperwork ?


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Warblington View Post
    Excel operate an industry-leading appeal system where any cases contested are scrupulously examined.

    ..by our profit orientated management. Please be assured we will always concluded that we want your money before ever allowing a successful appeal

    Your best option is to write in.

    .. by doing so you can help us save the £2.50 we would have to spend to get your name and address from the DVLA> This further helps boost our profits and we are very grateful for that.

    If you didn't overstay then you will have nothing to worry about.

    ..and if you did, the stores around the car park should be grateful that you spent a longer length of time in their shops spending lots of much needed money for them.
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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Please ignore 'Alan'.

    He's just the latest PPC troll to sign up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Al27 View Post
    Please ignore 'Alan'.

    He's just the latest PPC troll to sign up.
    but his arguements are so convincing, He almost has me converted!


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    Excel operate an industry-leading appeal system where any cases contested are scrupulously examined. Your best option is to write in. If you didn't overstay then you will have nothing to worry about.

    Bahahahaha, I needed that laugh after reading about all the parasite parking firms ripping people off.


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Maybe Simon and his partner are having trouble paying for the horses...

    Ignore Excel.


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    ...I'm standing firm despite 'that' unique post...


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    This is what happens when Excel contest things in court.

    Judge says Excel parking fines illegal - Mansfield Chad

    This always makes me smile when I read it.

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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    id forgotten that in the chad, was there own fault though

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    Quote Originally Posted by pin1onu View Post
    This is what happens when Excel contest things in court.

    Judge says Excel parking fines illegal - Mansfield Chad

    This always makes me smile when I read it.
    Very interesting. Couple of questions following on from that article:

    1. Is the Judges' ruling a case precedent? Does this mean that all similar cases (regarding overstaying) will have to be treated in the same way, ie dismissedicon?

    2. Does this mean that Excel - on the back of this ruling - no longer even take people to court for these types of things?


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    Default Re: Excel Ticket for Overstaying in a Netto Carpark

    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    Very interesting. Couple of questions following on from that article:

    1. Is the Judges' ruling a case precedent? Does this mean that all similar cases (regarding overstaying) will have to be treated in the same way, ie dismissedicon?
    No. county courticon cases do not set a precedent. If it was heard in the High Court it would. The only for this to happed is if Excel appealed. IMV it would also kill the goose that laid the golden Eggicon as the appeal would be rejected by High Court for the reasons stated in the original jugement.


    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    2. Does this mean that Excel - on the back of this ruling - no longer even take people to court for these types of things?
    They seemed to take a hiatus after this defeatbut I think they are still litigating - usually when someone attempts to defend without any knowledge of contract law.

    Like most PPC's they rely on ignorance to get people to pay up so they don't have to go to court.

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