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    Default gaanja v Barclaycard

    I've been reading these superb forums for a while now and it's about time I solicit some help too!

    Here's a gist of what has transpired since Sep 2008 when I started this process.

    1. Sent first CCA request in Sep 2008
    2. Sent reminder request in Oct 2008
    3. Sent another reminder in Nov 2008.
    4. Received Barclaycard terms and conditionsicon documents in Dec 2008.
    5. Wrote to them in Jan 2009 stating that these do not constitute a true copy of the credit agreement.
    6. Sent an SARicon in Jan 2009
    7. Received the standard drivel letter from Barclaycard about it being a copy, etc.
    8. In Feb 2009, I received statements of my account dating back to the past 6 yearsicon and nothing in relation to my credit agreement. This was their response to the SARicon. They signed off saying that this is all the information they hold on me.
    9. They subsequently passed it onto Mercers, who have pretty much hassled me since. Sent them a duplicate CCA.
    10. This week, Mercers have sent me a default notice and give me until 1st of April to pay them around 10% of the outstanding debt.
    11. I complained to the Information Commissioner this morning about non-compliance.

    In lieu of the above, can you kindly suggest what I can do next please?

    Thanks very much in advance.


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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Mercers are the "in house" Collection agents for Barclaycard. Are you able to scan the Default Notice and upload to your thread. You can use photobucket. Remove any personal information first. It is very likely that there are errors on the DN making it invalid. We will only be able to say for sure if we see it.

    Any future correspondence you send to either Barclay card or Mercers, use the reference number that the ICO give you. If you have only sent your complaint in to them today, then you will probably have to wait a few days before you get a reference, although you could phone them for that.

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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Hi Gaanja,

    Are there unlawful penalty charges on your BC a/c.

    If so, these alone will render the DN invalid.

    Have you looked into reclaiming such penalty charges as BC will repay them quite readily in most cases.



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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Thanks very much for your responses. Here are the scanned copies of the default notice.






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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Hi slick...yes, there are unlawful penalty charges on my BC a/c. However, I haven't claimed them back as yet on the understanding that claiming them would amount to an act of admission that the alleged debt exists, etc. Not sure if claiming charges back while going down this CCA/SARicon/CPR route would jeopardize its progress in any way. I gather that in the likelihood of me offering them an offer of Full and finalicon settlement, I can take into account all these charges and deduct them accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by slick132 View Post
    Hi Gaanja,

    Are there unlawful penalty charges on your BC a/c.

    If so, these alone will render the DN invalid.

    Have you looked into reclaiming such penalty charges as BC will repay them quite readily in most cases.




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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    gaanja,

    The company issuing the DN must allow 14 days clear for remedy. They must also figure in either 2 days for 1st class mailing or 4 days 2nd class mailing. (not including the weekend)

    Did you keep the envelope and what method used to post ?

    This is dated 15th March (a Sunday) with a remedy date of 1st April. You received it yesterday which was the 19th, yes ?

    So in that respect, I think it is invalid

    You also say there are charges included in the total again making it invalid.

    I am not sure, if Mercers are allowed to issue the Default notice as they are not the owner of the debt. I will ask someone with more knowledge to comment on that point. Which is why I have highlighted this paragraph

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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Citizen, I got rid of the envelope

    I received this on the 18th of March.

    Thanks for your assistance so far. Really appreciate it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gaanja View Post
    Citizen, I got rid of the envelope

    I received this on the 18th of March.

    Thanks for your assistance so far. Really appreciate it.
    Please keep all envelopes in future. Clip them to the letter.

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    When the Liberals and Conservatives were in opposition, they both agreed that banks should pay back high bank charges to customers. Nothing seems to have happened since they came into power as a coalition. PPI Insurance has been sorted. Now they should turn their attention to bank charges and help customers get exorbitant charges refunded.


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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Thanks for that link, 42man. Great stuff. I'll borrow some wisdom and advice from there as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenB View Post
    gaanja,

    This is dated 15th March (a Friday) with a remedy date of 1st April. You received it yesterday which was the 19th, yes ?
    The dates are spot on, 15th March 2009 was a sunday, two days for service gives mon & tues then 14 days = 31st March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmw1971 View Post
    The dates are spot on, 15th March 2009 was a sunday, two days for service gives mon & tues then 14 days = 31st March.

    PmW

    Oops, so it was. Where the heck did I get Friday from ? will amend my post. Thaks pmw

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmw1971 View Post
    The dates are spot on, 15th March 2009 was a sunday, two days for service gives mon & tues then 14 days = 31st March.

    PmW
    It wouldnt have gone in the post until Monday, so surely that would be Tuesday and Wednesday for the post allowance, always assuming it was sent 1st class of course. Sadly the OP has disposed of the envelope

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenB View Post
    Oops, so it was. Where the heck did I get Friday from ? will amend my post. Thaks pmw

    No probs... the format of the characters is wrong though they havent put sufficient prominence on some of them so I'd say still faulty DN.

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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Quote Originally Posted by pmw1971 View Post
    No probs... the format of the characters is wrong though they havent put sufficient prominence on some of them so I'd say still faulty DN.
    No doubt about that according the post 42man linked the OP to


    http://www.consumeractiongroup.c o.uk/forum/show-post/post-1447363.html


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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Just about to send the letter out.

    Can someone kindly advise me if I send both letters addressed in this thread at

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ml#post1447385

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ml#post1454421

    Or do I combine them both and send it as one letter to Mercers? I noticed that they have underlined and made bold a few words as per the guidelines for a default notice.

    Thanks in advance for your advice.


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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Hi Gaanja,

    Use the 2nd of the 2 linked letters above, adapted to reflect your own case as nec'y.

    In it, Pt2537 also addresses the fact that the DN includes unlawful penalty charges which render it incorrect.

    Link 1. OFT Debt Coll'n Guide - http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf
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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    Thanks Slick. Will post it out pronto!


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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    An update. Last week, received a letter from Calder Financial, which had the same address as Mercers. Guess they all are different names for their in-house collection agencies? They were threatening me with legal action and I sent them a CPR. Waiting for their response now.


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    Default Re: gaanja v Barclaycard

    This seems like very bad news.
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