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    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
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    • You could send an SAR to DCbl on the pretext that you are going for a breach of your GDPR . They should then send the purported letter of discontinuance which may show why it ended up in Gloucester and see if you can get your  costs back on the day. It obviously won't be much but  at least perhaps a small recompense for your wasted day. Not exactly wasted since you had a great win  albeit much sweeter if you had beat them in Court. But a win is a win so well done. We will miss you as it has been almost two years since you first started out on this mission. { I would n't be surprised if the wrong Court was down to DCBL}. I see you said "till the next time" but I am guessing you will be avoiding private patrolled car parks for a while.🙂
    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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Hi all,

 

I lost my job in December and have been struggling to pay my bills since then. Unfortunately i have been going over my o/d every couple of weeks. Last week they charged me 2x 35pounds for going overdrawn, the thing is, that i'm only getting jobseekers allowance every 2 weeks and it doesn't even cover my loan. As soon as my benefit comes in it gets taken by the charges. I have also been charged for going over again this week and the charges themselves keep making me overdrawn resulting in more charges. I went in to speak to them in my local Bank of Scotland and they couldn't care less.

 

I was told by the job centre that it is illegal for them to take my benefit as it is for me to live on. I have credit cards that are maxed out and can't afoord to pay, but the benefit allowed me to pay something towards them and now i am totally stuck. I can't keep asking my family for money and i don't want them to know what a mess i'm in.

 

If i had a job i could sort some of this out but i just cant seem to find any. Times are tough. It's all leaving me depressed.

 

Can anyone offer me any advice?

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They won't care. Don't expect them to. Even though it is they who have caused your problems, they will blame you and they will make you pay.

 

The charges are unlawful of cuorse and you will eventually get them back.

For the moment you need to send a letter of appropriation putting the bank on notice that your money is drived from benefits and you need it to live on. You can find it in our bank charges templates library:- The Consumer Forums - Library

 

Do this straightaway and deliver it to the bank by hand and get a receipt. Also send a copy by recorded post.

 

Also, if you can manage the £10, sned an SAR to find out about all of the charges which they have imposed on your account and set about the business of recovering them.

 

You shold also ask them to return on the basis of hardship, the charges which they have taken. They are meant to do this but don't hold your breath.

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Thanks for your input. I took letter of appropriation to the bank and guess what? They have never heard of it! I explained my situation and why they couldn't take my benefit and they woman looked at me like i was something she stepped on. She refused to help and barely looked at the letter.She then said that i would have to call the bank, so gave me a number to call. She then kindly let me use the phone in the bank. On the phone they told me i shouldn't be going o/d and that i should cancel my direct debits to stop this! What kind of solution is that?!! If i do that my bills don't get paid and i then end up being chased bydebt collectors as well as owing money to the bank. I was then given another number to call, which then put me in hold, then in a line to have my call answered. I gave up after 30mins. No one wants to help and i am now well and truly stuck. Everyone says the right of appropriation is rubbish.

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I suggest you get another account with a bank that isn't linked to Lloyds-HBOS, and get your benefits paid into it.

 

Then go to your nearest CAB and ask them to look at negotiating reduced payments on the loan. It could give enough breathing space until you find yourself in a better position to resume full loan repayments.

 

Then do as Fodder says and SAR BOS so that you can go about reclaiming charges.

 

Who is the loan with?

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I have a loan with Nationwide at the moment which my mum is kindly helping me to pay. I owe her a fortune. The bank just put 70 quid in charges on my account, then an insurance sum of 4 pounds came out and they are now going to charge me a further 35. It was them who made me o/d in the first place. Until they took the charges, i had enough money to pay the insurance!! I'm so stuck. The truth is, that i'm massively depressed and this is just adding further stress i don't need. I'm going to have my benefit put into another account but this just delays the inevitible. I'm still going to have to pay them eventually.

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